Talk:Marriage
Serial Monogamy[edit]
Why does it say that "serial monogamists" do not usually marry the people they are monogomous with? I've always heard the term to refer to people like Liz Taylor who keep marrying person after person, thus never really be "monogamous" with 1 person. Researcher 03:04, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- I have heard it used of people who did not marry any of their series of lovers. ListenerXTalkerX 03:10, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Me too. Liz Taylor was just a serial marrier. Serial monogamy is sort of a polite sort of promiscuous lifestyle. I am one, for instance - never married, and between slutty delights, had a series of monogamous relationships. ħuman 03:13, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I had heard it used as a not polite term used to denigrate those who didn't take their marriage vows significantly enough. I think it was from an Islamic scholar supporting the 4 wives thing by saying that Westerners weren't really monogamous. Researcher 15:03, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Me too. Liz Taylor was just a serial marrier. Serial monogamy is sort of a polite sort of promiscuous lifestyle. I am one, for instance - never married, and between slutty delights, had a series of monogamous relationships. ħuman 03:13, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure why "serial monogamy" is mentioned in this article at all; it doesn't seem more than vaguely related to the subject of marriage. ΨΣΔξΣΓΩΙÐMethinks it is a Weasel 15:26, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- I had originally added it to poke fun of those who pretended to be virtuous, "marriage between one man and one woman" types who are nonetheless on their third or fourth wife. Like Gingrich or Limbaugh. Researcher 16:11, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, let's ditch the "serial monogamy" phrase and details, then, and address that better? "Serial nuptualizers"? "Serial divorcers"? The trouble with "serial monogamy" is it really isn't about marriages, the first place I think I ran into it was in the lesbian "community". ħuman 20:23, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- You know, now that you mention it, I've heard it used that way before too. Hm...there should be something making fun of values conservatives though who marry over and over. Not sure what, though. Researcher 04:26, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Absolutely there should. It just can't be called "serial monogamy", since that means something else (honesty). ħuman 05:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Human, I'm totally with you. The question becomes...what do we call it? Or we could just remove the section...I've got no real beef with divorce, just with hypocrisy (esp. from people trying to remove my own right to divorce.) Researcher 13:25, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Absolutely there should. It just can't be called "serial monogamy", since that means something else (honesty). ħuman 05:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- You know, now that you mention it, I've heard it used that way before too. Hm...there should be something making fun of values conservatives though who marry over and over. Not sure what, though. Researcher 04:26, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, let's ditch the "serial monogamy" phrase and details, then, and address that better? "Serial nuptualizers"? "Serial divorcers"? The trouble with "serial monogamy" is it really isn't about marriages, the first place I think I ran into it was in the lesbian "community". ħuman 20:23, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
That pool boy joke[edit]
If a man was having an affair with one of the maids, everyone would be mad at him. --Yuppie (talk) 22:35, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Levi-Strauss and kinship rules[edit]
There can be no discussion of marriages without a knowledge of kinship rules as defined by the structuralist Levi-Strauss. Anyone here want to progress this? (I will be banned again soon from this site so I will drop out here) 82.2.75.224 (talk) 06:19, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- But to kick things off... marriage is a system of barter - a gift that needs reciprocation. The father gives away the daughter sanctioned by the metaphorical father (priest)who is representative of the Father (God). So, understanding of structuralism - as defined by Levi-Strauss, coupled with some evolutionary psychology on mating systems for humans and primates (see Tooby/Cosmides for example) will provide some clues. Of course since 'religion' has become to be dominated by 'secularism' certain myths are now in conflict. Easy stuff when you know what is going on... --82.2.75.224 (talk) 06:29, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
"Even in countries where marriage resembles female bondage, most women want to be married"[edit]
Aren't these the kind of countries where women are pressured into getting married? ThineAntidote (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
Shotgun marriages[edit]
It should be born in mind that in some societies a physical relationship might well start once it was agreed that a marriage would take place - rather than waiting until the actual nuptials.
Some mention might be made of wife-selling, Gretna Green and similar. Anna Livia (talk) 17:23, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Traditional marriages[edit]
Might well be far more complex than modern marriages.
People tended to die much younger than they do now, and the surviving spouse could often remarry fairly soon afterwards - so the new spouse might well take on the spouse's step-children, and other outcomes we would now find peculiar. Anna Livia (talk) 18:43, 17 January 2018 (UTC)