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Hokay, so whoever wrote the part about Noah cursing his sons has obviously never read the section in the Torah. Noah curses one son (notice it's singular) because upon seeing Noah drunk and naked, he runs out and tells his brothers about it to mock him, rather than covering him up then and there. His other two sons DO cover him up, and are blessed by him, not cursed. This kind of poor understanding of religious writ does not help our case at all. ThunderkatzHo! 14:46, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

Ooops, sorry, my bad. changed to ONE son. However, nothing in the text says that Ham mocked his father. merely that he told them of his father's nakedness. One of the joys of biblical reading is that you have to "divine" what happens and why it's a sin. Other readings of the same passage suggest that Ham had inappropriate relations with his father. I merely write what is in the bible.
20 Noah, a man of the soil, proceeded [a] to plant a vineyard. 21 When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father's nakedness and told his two brothers outside. Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it across their shoulders; then they walked in backward and covered their father's nakedness. Their faces were turned the other way so that they would not see their father's nakedness.

24 When Noah awoke from his wine and found out what his youngest son had done to him, 25 he said,

      "Cursed be Canaan!
      The lowest of slaves
      will he be to his brothers."--WaitingforGodot 15:59, 21 July 2008 (EDT)


You'd think that such a useful skill in building ships would get taught to somebody. But apparently the old bastard kept the secret to himself until he died. --Kels 19:38, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Not necessarily. It's the first ship mentioned in the Bible (I think), son a creationist might argue it was the first one ever built, & that that's where shipbuilding comes from. weaseLOIdWeaselly.jpg~ 19:50, 25 October 2008 (EDT)