Talk:Omnipotence paradox

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This Objection to Omnipotence is just Semantics[edit]

To claim that this defeats omnipotence is like saying God (or any power) isn't omnipotent because it can't destroy itself. And, yes, God is subject to logic, which is not a thing, but a relationship to things, again illustrating the same idea. It's like saying Russell's Paradox and Godel's Incompleteness Theorems means mathematics and logic are wrong just because you can't ever have a mathematical system that can prove every statement from a given set of axioms. 2602:306:CD96:CC10:992B:713D:4593:7B86 (talk) 01:56, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

You're wrong and have no idea how to do logic. Bye! ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:20, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion[edit]

Only a certain proportion of deities claim to be omnipotent (some even know when and how they are going to die).

Perhaps the issue is actually a trade-off - either 'God is omnipotent in a universe that exists without sentient life, but according to strict scientific laws' or 'God delegates some of [relevant pronoun] potency to the sentient entities that God has created - and the omnipotence is collective (we, after all, can conceive of the concept of omnipotence). Anna Livia (talk) 00:38, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

I think the question of whether there can be more than one omnipotent being is a different, though similar, paradox . . . More to the point, could multiple omnipotent beings actually be considered separate beings? Is your mind blown?! I AM THE LIZARD QUEEN!!! --Bertrc (talk) 20:53, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

A possible solution[edit]

An omnipotent God 'creates the universe' which is not 'a solid thing' and so can be moved around like a liquid (there is nothing that says that 'the large thing' has to be a solid object).

The universe generates black holes which 'suck bits of God into them' and fast-spinning neutron stars which 'twisty-up' other bits of God.

As a result God is no longer capable of omnipotence. Anna Livia (talk) 00:14, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

But if God is omnipotent, couldn't She avoid being sucked up by black holes and twisted by neutron stars? Or are you proposing a solution a la "God can make a rock She can't lift by creating a big rock and removing Her omnipotence"? --Bertrc (talk) 20:23, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
It does depend partly upon how omnipresent 'the Deity (or collection of Deities, as some of the issues will still apply in such circumstances) is' - and 'black holes, neutron stars and other peculiar bits of the universe' may well be integral parts of God.
Also - the Deity may have the capacity/potential to be omnipotent and omnipresent, but chooses not to fully exercise such abilities (finding it more interesting to 'observe what happens in these various contexts': giving sentients the equivalent of a colouring book and allowing them to determine the details) - or 'omnipotence' is actually 'omni-potential.' Anna Livia (talk) 14:06, 17 January 2022 (UTC)