Talk:Republic of Ireland

Does

Does this really fit our raison d'etre? PFoster 16:01, 24 March 2008 (EDT) It was in wantedpages so I just added it. That said there is quite a lot of snark to be added if you understand Irish humourAngband 16:09, 24 March 2008 (EDT) Perhaps in hindsight I should have deleted the links instead of making an articleAngband 17:35, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

We have lots of country articles, this is no different but needs MOAR. Totnesmartin 15:56, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Should humour take priority?

I'm re-reading this, and noticed the bit in the opening about two houses and everyone else living in apartments (badum-tish!).

Fact is, even though I love the gag, it couldn't be further from the truth. Generally here in Ireland there's this 'gotta get a house' mentality, and many simply can't grasp the idea of paying rent as opposed to a mortgage. ^{— Unsigned, by: Polite Timesplitter / talk / contribs} 15:27, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

SolPyre edit issue(s)

Just creating an area to discuss which particular aspect(s) of my edit SolPyre had or has issue with. Obviously I can't begin a discussion, as there are many different aspects to my copyedit and I have no idea which part there may be an problem with. I'll be here to chat, if necessary. --98.122.20.56 (talk) 01:26, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Mostly i;m not a fan of your insistence on changing Ireland to Republic of Ireland, it's a needless change in no way reflective of how the countries name is used in English. --"Paravant" ^{Talk & Contribs} 01:43, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

You don't like it?! lol

I think it is reflective of the way the country's name is used in English. Not only that, but the name is used by the government of the Republic of Ireland itself. Although propaganda is the main rationale for the country choosing an ambiguous name, the Republic still allowed for an alternative name to avoid ambiguity.

I think it's necessary to prevent any confusion between the country and the island: the Republic doesn't have jurisdiction over the entire island. --98.122.20.56 (talk) 01:50, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Nobody is confused when we discuss China and don't include Taiwan, America and don't mean the entire two continenets or Korea and mean the South. There's no reason to actually go out of our way to mention "Republic of" Ireland every time we mention it. --"Paravant" ^{Talk & Contribs} 01:57, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

(in response to the OP) Besides what Paravant mentioned about 'Republic of' I reverted it because it felt like what people here(RW) often call apologetics, in this case apologetics for the UK. I'm still not sure if I should have reverted it or not but Paravant seems to have made up his/her mind. SolPyre (talk) 02:23, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Irish language

If you mention the Irish language, you should at least get it right. It is not "Éireann go brách", it is either "Éire go brách" or, more colloquially, "Éirinn go brách". "Éireann" is the genitive form, meaning "Ireland's" or "of Ireland" (cf. Poblacht na hÉireann "the Republic of Ireland"). Look it up, say, in Mícheál Ó Siadhail's "Learning Irish", if you don't believe me.

Also, if you are poking fun at Peig, you should at least tell the reader who Peig is. Besides, even Peig deserves a more rational treatment. I would suggest the following:

"While contemporary Irish literature is as modern as any, it is generally complained that Irish has been used as a political weapon by conservative Irish nationalists. The typical complaint is that peasant autobiographies, such as Peig Sayers's Peig, have been exploited in school instruction in order to propagate and inculcate conservative values among children." ^{— Unsigned, by: 84.248.168.99 / talk / contribs}

Does anyone here speak Irish? Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 07:54, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

I'd like to add here that an aspect of the Celtic languages that should be highlighted on Rationalwiki is the fact that the surviving Celtic cultures actually went in for Christianity at a very early stage, so that, say, Irish Gaelic folklore is completely awash with Christian references. Thus, the way how Wiccans and other Neopagans learn Celtic languages (i.e. appropriate individual words of Celtic languages) and believe them to be the languages of the last Pagans in Europe makes little sense. Anne Ross wrote a delightful and quite serious book called "Everyday Life of the Pagan Celts", but it was based for the most part on archeological evidence, very little on actual literature of the Celts themselves. 84.248.168.99 (talk) 07:57, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

I'd also like to add here that the opinionated parts of the Irish language could be discussed, like in English the common word for a pregnancy termination is an abortion, which just means stopping something. The Irish for an abortion is ginmhilleadh which translates to fEtUS deStruCtiON (or as I like to translate: Fetus Deletus) which obviously would invoke a negative response from anyone initially. Féinléiriú (talk) 00:11, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

History

The history section needs a fair bit of work, considering that it only goes back to 1782 and omits some signnificant events (e.g. the Great Famine of the 1840s). Autarch (talk) 10:58, 30 July 2020 (UTC)