Talk:Roman Catholic Church

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catholic church actually explicitly embraces religious freedom, and acknowledges atheists who do good are good[edit]

the article makes a comfy claim "Like most religions, they believe that they are the only universal valid faith, and the Catholic Church teaches that it is the one true Church, to the exclusion of non-Catholic Christians"

this is below the standards of this site, isn't it :) ?, quite unsuspect of theistic brabble, is trying to shed light on the opening of minds within the Catholic church for intelligent dialogue with other faiths, inlcuding atheists:

I won't edit the main article as I don't have the tender hands needed to hit the nerve of this but the above statement is simply outdated, by >50 years now...

Comparability to Sunni Islam?[edit]

Is Catholic Church really a comparable thing to Sunni Islam in terms of numbers of adherents? I mean, the Sunni Islam isn't really an organization with leaders and hierarchy, but more an umbrella term for various smaller organizations. How exactly is the term "religious body" used in the article defined? – (talk) 18:12, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Traditionally, Catholicism is compared with Shi'a Islam due to their mutual adoration for relics and tradition, in comparison with the Protestant/Sunni preference for sola scriptura.-- (talk) 19:36, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
The comparison is solely based on number of adherents, not history or theology. They are different religions after all... the Sunni-Shia split happened rather early in islamic history iirc, maybe comparable to the various definitions in Christianity regarding the nature of Jesus (trinity? separate entities? created by God?) which rose in early Christianity. However, the Sunni-Shia schism is mostly based on who was the legal successor of Mohammed, which is more of a successiony type issue rather than something theological as in Christianity. I don't know about relics in islam, but if the BoN before me is right, that comparison is probably valid... however, one could also say that sunni islam has been the larger denomination since the creation of Islam and the Shias rose later which sounds more like Catholic (and maybe the other older branches, like Orthodox and Coptic) Christianity should be compared to Sunni Islam and Shias to Protestants. In the end, I don't think that one should actually compare sectarianism in Christianity with sectarianism in Islam except for when one is trying to explain what sectarianism is. The schisms had different reasons and results in those two religions.--Imaginative username (talk) 19:54, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


Every non-pope since 1958 agrees with the world, not with Christ. It is a clever diabolical mixture concocted by Lucifer who always said He would form his own "church." This was verified by a Voice-Vsion in the late 19th Century, approx in 1893 when Pope Leo XIII heard two voices speaking. One voice was that of Lucifer, the other Our Lord. Lucifer wanted "more time" to complete the destruction of Christ's Church--the Catholic Church. Our Lord said "You have the time, Do what you will." Pope Leo wrote the details in nearly these same words, whereupon he wrote a Prayer to St. Michael to be said after EVERY Mass until Our Lord returns. After Pope Pius XII died, the Novus Ordo abandoned the Prayer and instituted the Church of Lucifer, changing all things, even canonized doctrines. 

John O'Connor was one of the first priests to acknowledge the cabalistic origins of masonic communism. He was expelled from the Catholic Church for opposing the homosexual control of the church and exposing the satanic new world order (talk) 03:46, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Might I ask what medicines you are taking?Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 07:54, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Catholic Church vs Catholicism[edit]

While the former defines the latter, might be worth having 2 separate articles as both are huge subjects in the skeptic world (talk) 02:20, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Seems this page, like most important pages on this wiki, is neglected, as at least one image doesn't even display on the article. Would suggest less focus on current events and more on bread and butter skeptic topics. (talk) 02:23, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Force-feeding tube real incident[edit]

The church doesn't really care whether someone euthanizes their pet chimpanzee, but will shove a force feeding tube down a preteen girl's vomit-lubricated throat while she screams, in order to preserve the day-old embryo should she stop eating to establish her independence like that pagan pacifist Gandhi. Any injuries incurred this way are always the mother's fault; should you still feel bad about medically torturing your daughter, just recite your Hail Marys until you feel better.

Where does this come from? Was this a real incident? Also why is it under evolution? — Unsigned, by: EvilJohnCalvin / talk / contribs

I've removed it. It was completely unsourced and seems highly unlikely. Nowadays, the Catholic Church itself doesn't have the authority to force feed anybody anywhere in the world. I suppose some governments of officially Catholic countries might have the authority to do that to prevent a pregnant woman from starving herself to death. But even then, it wouldn't happen on the first day a girl became pregnant. Spud (talk) 09:46, 26 May 2023 (UTC)