User talk:Spud
Email[edit]
Hey, if you have a spare moment, do you mind checking your "junk mail". I have dropped you an email but Outlook is being a pain recently and keeps going to junk mail. Thanks. Oldman4 (talk) 16:17, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
It was my Birthday today[edit]
I know it isn't the same, but I did give a little thought to myself, and I bought a pint of ice cream. It was slim pickins, but I found one Ben and Jerry's called 'American Dream' which cracked me up a little, and I don't really like marshmallow or cherry cordial. After I bought it, I saw on the packaging it is a Stephen Colbert joint, but I don't really care, it's ice cream, vanilla with fudge covered waffle cone and caramel swirl, as somebody who doesn't do sweets, it is intense. I just ate some, and enjoying ice cream is inextricably linked to remembering my grandfather, and also giving a warm thought towards your sister. I have another grandfather who I think of warmly when I eat baked beans. It doesn't hurt me, but I did think 'Aw, damn, Spud's sister, too.' I hope you're doing well, for me it's happy memories of ice cream with Nana and Papa. Torrent (talk) 07:49, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- @TorrentThank you so much for sharing that. And happy birthday! Spud (talk) 11:58, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
Board - the bitch is back[edit]
I have rescinded my resignation from the Board and left a message on the Discord chat. Please look at it ASAP. DuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW
dictator moderator 14:40, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
Requesting page protection[edit]
Namely for [redacted]. New editors randomly popping up with comments like the ones I just deleted, are more trouble than they're worth. Elf (talk) 19:44, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Dont be rude[edit]
Book titles are capitalised...
Why does not that qualify as a stub?
--Janosabel (talk) 17:31, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- The draft has zero sources, poor formatting, barely engages with or describes the subject at all and reads mostly like a puff piece; if it was sent to mainspace even as a stub (which is in itself poor form) it would almost certainly be AfD'd for these issues. To have any hope for the article at all you would need to improve it considerably before it gets sent to mainspace. Plutocow (talk) 18:51, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining. --Janosabel (talk) 11:30, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Janosabel You failed to properly capitalize the article, calling it "The capitalist manifesto" with a lower-case c and a lower-case m. You might notice we have an article called The Handmaid's Tale, not one called The handmaid's tale. Everything Plutocow said about your pathetic stub was true. And don't tell me not to be fucking rude. If you can't stand a bit of fucking rudeness, you're not going to fit in very well around here. Spud (talk) 03:14, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Some of us come to RW in some small part *because* the language used is allowed to be a bit more exuberant. :) Anna Livia (talk) 10:27, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for saying I have to allow for the oft exuberant language...--Janosabel (talk) 11:30, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- 'Exuberant' as a 'neutral'/non-judgemental description :) Anna Livia (talk) 20:01, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for saying I have to allow for the oft exuberant language...--Janosabel (talk) 11:30, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
Hello Spud[edit]
Apologies for the sudden message, but I heard Duce retired and I haven’t heard from him in a bit and I got a little worried about his well being. May I please ask what happened? We need brain! Give us brain! 19:53, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Rational Dude Look at his user page. That really tells you everything you need to know. Spud (talk) 14:56, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- I did, but I didn’t understand what happened until Duce told me. Thanks for responding though. The board really should respect editors like him honestly.
We need brain! Give us brain! 15:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- I did, but I didn’t understand what happened until Duce told me. Thanks for responding though. The board really should respect editors like him honestly.
Recent Suppressions[edit]
I know Special:Contributions/23.234.78.164 and Special:Contributions/23.234.77.38 edits have been suppressed already but Special:Contributions/23.234.77.164 edits need suppression as well for doxxing. Lavalizard101 (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
Check your email[edit]
Can you check your email and address the thing that got sent out? Thanks DuceMoosolini (talk) 20:25, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
WIGO entries?[edit]
Are your two recent WIGO entries [the transwoman sport ones] a) missional for RW and/or b) important enough to get an entry? KarmaPolice (talk) 11:58, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- a) Yes; b) Yes. Scream!! (talk) 12:01, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- a) Not really, if you go on the four mission points on our mainpage, b) Not really, in the grand scheme of things [bearing in mind this is a world list.] KarmaPolice (talk) 12:03, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- @KarmaPolice You're perfectly entitled to vote them down, if you like. You probably have already. And that's fine. I see them as indicative of a growing transphobia in the UK that's been encouraged by the recent Supreme Court decision. Spud (talk) 12:25, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- I was the one who expanded the UK supreme court decision WIGO, so I do think that topic in itself is important enough [not so much the ruling itself, but the fact TERF rights now seemingly overrule human rights and Starmer has come out fully for this new shitty position which means zero correction (I mean he could have said 'transwomen are not women for the purposes of protected spaces/situations until they get their GRC, and even then there's limits on this' which I think would have at least been a bit reassuring).] And when I come across in my travels a good comment piece on the enshittifying situation in the round, I shall be the first to add it to the blogs WIGO.
- @KarmaPolice You're perfectly entitled to vote them down, if you like. You probably have already. And that's fine. I see them as indicative of a growing transphobia in the UK that's been encouraged by the recent Supreme Court decision. Spud (talk) 12:25, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- a) Not really, if you go on the four mission points on our mainpage, b) Not really, in the grand scheme of things [bearing in mind this is a world list.] KarmaPolice (talk) 12:03, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- My beef was this. I do fear that our WIGOs have suffered significant 'focus drift' over the years, and as such is now ideologically significantly different to mainspace [not the only one who thinks this either]. I fear that it is driving away possible future contributers because they look at these WIGOs and think 'oh fuck, another Anglo/Progressive circlejerk' and move on [which is a risk if our WIGOs disproportionately cover every Trump/trans/Musk news-wiggle]. More importantly, if RW survives I have been toying with helping with RW's social media 'outreach programme' [ie actually having one] and was going to use the WIGOs for content, so I would like them to be less nakedly partisan outside of our remit. Lastly, filling up the WIGOs with negative news is perhaps not best for folks mental health right now. KarmaPolice (talk) 14:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- @KarmaPolice Thank you for rewriting the WIGO entry for the Supreme Court decision. It now seems to have received more of the votes it deserved as an important news story. It was ridiculous that it got so few votes in comparison to the story about Tommy Robinson that I posted above it. I agree with everything you said in the first paragraph. I disagree with just about everything you said in the second paragraph, apart from the last sentence. I just wish there was more good news to add at the moment. Spud (talk) 14:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Let me put it this way; the SC ruling [and reaction to] was a) a threat to human rights [so RW missional] and b) serious enough to warrant an entry. The sports ones I don't believe clear the notability threshold and [more importantly] there isn't a scientific consensus on it either. In this case, saying 'all transwomen should be allowed in women's competitve sports' might very well be an anti-science, anti-rational position. Lastly, if you agree with the concept of rewrite/updating existing posts, why didn't you either a) combine the two into one or b) put both of them as an addendum to the one I updated before [as it is clearly an extension of the first story]?
- @KarmaPolice Thank you for rewriting the WIGO entry for the Supreme Court decision. It now seems to have received more of the votes it deserved as an important news story. It was ridiculous that it got so few votes in comparison to the story about Tommy Robinson that I posted above it. I agree with everything you said in the first paragraph. I disagree with just about everything you said in the second paragraph, apart from the last sentence. I just wish there was more good news to add at the moment. Spud (talk) 14:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- On a more general note, what don't you like about someone actually taking RWs social media output in hand and trying to use it to get more editors and visibility? KarmaPolice (talk) 15:48, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Hey[edit]
You might want to read this article in case you haven't. GeeJayKWhere all evil dwells Where every lie is true 12:36, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
I have added a reference[edit]
I noticed you undid my edit on Godi media due to lack of evidence. I have rolled your edit back and added a reference. Cheers. Prem Chand (talk) 05:14, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
Discord[edit]
Please check Discord ASAP. Thanks DuceMoosolini (talk) 13:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- @DuceMoosolini Just been there. Just voted. Spud (talk) 14:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just another reminder that you’ve been messaged on Discord about a thing in your email. DuceMoosolini (talk) 02:00, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Spud please. DuceMoosolini (talk) 13:23, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Just another reminder that you’ve been messaged on Discord about a thing in your email. DuceMoosolini (talk) 02:00, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- I have sent you a direct message on Discord about a separate matter of more urgency. DuceMoosolini (talk) 14:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- A major thing is happening on Discord. DuceMoosolini (talk) 06:47, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
Fiji vs a mod named scream[edit]
Umm, so a mod messaged saying my country page about fiji is gong to get removed, but as far as i see, other countries have their own RW page but he says country wikis arent allowed? as long as i have cited and written it properly without copy pasting from any outside websites, should be allowed right? — Unsigned, by: Theoneandonlylinguist09 / talk / contribs
- - Scream is not a mod.
- - If you wish to discuss the issue either raise it in the page's 'talk' section or the either user's talkpage.
- - If you wish to bring something up to the mods 'in general' it's best to put it on the Mod noticeboard so we all see it.
- - I've put my 'full reply' on your own talkpage.
- - Please use the 'sig and timestamp' button (or four tildes) so your talk entries are identifiable as coming from you.
- - [Sorry if toes are stepped, Spud.] KarmaPolice (talk) 16:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- @KarmaPolice No toes stepped on. I couldn't have put it better myself. Spud (talk) 11:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
I seent yer edits n the fossil records, I'm here to put a stop to them[edit]
Nah, I'm just jokin. I was excited to hear a parallel between Lord Invader's "Rum and Coca-Cola" and a song I remembered, not tryna create a main space article on Calypso or casual racism, it was truly boredom-coded. but I did have a couple jokes about Calypso and collapse-o going through my brain, drug free aside from alcohol and nicotine, I promise. Things don't go on that long in the bar anymore, though. Is it time to think about your sister already? I never put it on my calendar, but if you're worried about that, I just found out about my nephew's upcoming birthday party in a couple weeks, my calendar is always empty. I can read one, but I'll be damned if I can ever figure out how to use one. Dairy Queen, don't think I never listened. It is an easy ask for me to go to a dairy queen, I remember that you said she was really excited to visit one. I was with my niece and nephew on the 4th. They were watching Independence Day, that Will Smith movie about kicking alien ass and war, and my niece literally said 'those poor people that died' so I know she's getting raised right. We didn't have ice cream after dinner, and that's a shame on me. My grandpa loved ice cream, I shoulda brought some. Torrent (talk) 10:01, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Torrent April 30 was my late sister's birthday. But a few days ago, I discovered there was an article here called Earth angels. Back to the Future was my sister's favourite film. As a pre-teen in the pre-internet days of the mid 1980s, she found out through her own research that the song "Earth Angel (Will You Be Mine)" was first recorded by The Penguins. She was able to get the version by the white boy band The Crew-Cuts easily enough on a '50s compilation cassette. Getting The Penguins' original version on vinyl was considerably more difficult. But she got it. And she made a mash-up of those two versions and the Back to the Future one. So, I had to pay this little tribute to her, and I couldn't wait until next April. Spud (talk) 10:23, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- A trip.around the sun is a little arbitrary anyway, if you ask me. Sounds like you and her had a great time regardless of the Earth's orbit. Time moves in incalculable ways like that. Torrent (talk) 10:39, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Maaaaaaan, you didn't listen to a ding dang one, did you? Do you really not trust me enough to use songs to communicate? That honestly, in no uncertain terms, bums me out. I would never fuck with your method of communication on purpose, and I would never call it whatever. And I don't think you're actually mad at me. Maybe you are, but dude, come on, I'm as honest as a man can be, and I do care, I wasn't being mean. [1]Torrent (talk) 07:39, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Torrent Apologies if the song has the words "Earth angel" in the lyrics. I just saw that it only had "Angels" in the title. Spud (talk) 13:00, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't, but it says 'angels on my body and they guide me but they're not heavenly' and has the frenetic energy of somebody who believes in the earth angel kinda nonsense as described in the article, and the music video matches it so perfectly that it must be intentional. The lead is body rocking around while the rest of the band is just standing around like 'welp, she's gonna do that.' It's not just a 1:1 with words for me. Torrent (talk) 05:15, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Spud I talked to you here before I posted it, by the way, and got to know the context of your post, and I felt more comfortable adding to something I know means a lot to you in a way that means a lot to me. It's a fun space, please in the future don't move my shit around or discount it without at least talking to me. Torrent (talk) 05:56, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't, but it says 'angels on my body and they guide me but they're not heavenly' and has the frenetic energy of somebody who believes in the earth angel kinda nonsense as described in the article, and the music video matches it so perfectly that it must be intentional. The lead is body rocking around while the rest of the band is just standing around like 'welp, she's gonna do that.' It's not just a 1:1 with words for me. Torrent (talk) 05:15, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Torrent Apologies if the song has the words "Earth angel" in the lyrics. I just saw that it only had "Angels" in the title. Spud (talk) 13:00, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Maaaaaaan, you didn't listen to a ding dang one, did you? Do you really not trust me enough to use songs to communicate? That honestly, in no uncertain terms, bums me out. I would never fuck with your method of communication on purpose, and I would never call it whatever. And I don't think you're actually mad at me. Maybe you are, but dude, come on, I'm as honest as a man can be, and I do care, I wasn't being mean. [1]Torrent (talk) 07:39, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- A trip.around the sun is a little arbitrary anyway, if you ask me. Sounds like you and her had a great time regardless of the Earth's orbit. Time moves in incalculable ways like that. Torrent (talk) 10:39, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Email[edit]
Please check your email; I've sent you a message there and I'd like to make sure you don't miss it. Tetrapteryx (talk) 16:32, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Tetrapteryx I did not receive the email. Spud (talk) 11:41, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- How can I contact you about something that we can't talk about on-site? I can't do it on the RW Discord, because when I first joined that Discord in 2022 to bring up my suspicion that "Boar" was Oliver Smith, I was immediately banned from the server within five minutes. Tetrapteryx (talk) 12:32, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- If RMF's board has an official email address that people can use to contact them about issues related to the legal settlements, I could use that email address instead, but I've looked for something like that and it doesn't appear to exist. (It might be a good idea to create that.) Tetrapteryx (talk) 12:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- legal@rationalwiki.org, from RW:Legal FAQ. – Regards, Avarice 13:01, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- And do the board members actually read emails that are sent there? My understanding of how this works is that that that email address isn't checked; it's just there so that creationists and anti-vaxxers have a place to send their rants without anyone having to read them. For example, it seems that none of the emails sent to that address during the lead-up to the lawsuits got any acknowledgment or response. I'm looking for a way to actually contact the board, not just a placebo. Tetrapteryx (talk) 13:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- treasurer@rationalmedia.org is used. DuceMoosolini (talk) 14:02, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll send my message there in a few minutes. Tetrapteryx (talk) 14:18, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- The most convincing evidence I've seen so far that the race pseudoscience network has renewed its focus on Rational Wiki. Pinkerite (talk) 14:46, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- This ongoing attempt to use Oliver Smith to try to hurt Rational Wiki absolutely reeks of that gang. It sure looks to me like a certain LLC is paying its stooges to harass Oliver Smith - which in itself is illegal and should be investigated. Pinkerite (talk) 14:51, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Should the RMF topic ban Tetrapteryx from mentioning Oliver Smith? Seems obsessional. 217.64.126.22 (talk) 15:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- This ongoing attempt to use Oliver Smith to try to hurt Rational Wiki absolutely reeks of that gang. It sure looks to me like a certain LLC is paying its stooges to harass Oliver Smith - which in itself is illegal and should be investigated. Pinkerite (talk) 14:51, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- The most convincing evidence I've seen so far that the race pseudoscience network has renewed its focus on Rational Wiki. Pinkerite (talk) 14:46, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll send my message there in a few minutes. Tetrapteryx (talk) 14:18, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- treasurer@rationalmedia.org is used. DuceMoosolini (talk) 14:02, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- And do the board members actually read emails that are sent there? My understanding of how this works is that that that email address isn't checked; it's just there so that creationists and anti-vaxxers have a place to send their rants without anyone having to read them. For example, it seems that none of the emails sent to that address during the lead-up to the lawsuits got any acknowledgment or response. I'm looking for a way to actually contact the board, not just a placebo. Tetrapteryx (talk) 13:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- legal@rationalwiki.org, from RW:Legal FAQ. – Regards, Avarice 13:01, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- If RMF's board has an official email address that people can use to contact them about issues related to the legal settlements, I could use that email address instead, but I've looked for something like that and it doesn't appear to exist. (It might be a good idea to create that.) Tetrapteryx (talk) 12:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
He didn't mention him. Pinkerite did. And again, ODS has got fuck all to do with any of this. Spud (talk) 16:04, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Incorrect. Look up: "How can I contact you about something that we can't talk about on-site? I can't do it on the RW Discord, because when I first joined that Discord in 2022 to bring up my suspicion that "Boar" was Oliver Smith, I was immediately banned from the server within five minutes. Tetrapteryx (talk) 12:32, 16 July 2025 (UTC)"— Unsigned, by: Pinkerite / talk / contribs
Hello spud[edit]
I just wanted to stop by and leave a message saying hi and asking how you’re doing. Thanks for your message a while back, and I’m happy to hear you have one less worry now that the lawsuit is over.
By the way I sent you a friend request on discord a while back but I never heard from you, so I just wanted to check in. We need brain! Give us brain! 14:12, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Rational Dude Hello. I'm fine. I'm in the middle of enjoying a week off work. Sorry. I can't seem to find the friend request on Discord. Maybe you can try again. I never used to be very active on Discord. But now that it's the primary location for discussing Board stuff, and since there has been some Board stuff that needed discussing, I check it every day. Spud (talk) 11:06, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Great to hear. And no need to apologize, I just wanted to check and make sure if you saw or not. I sent the request right now. Have a great rest of your day, sir.
We need brain! Give us brain! 13:58, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Great to hear. And no need to apologize, I just wanted to check and make sure if you saw or not. I sent the request right now. Have a great rest of your day, sir.
Request[edit]
Am I allowed to change the category of “Anti-Christian Bigotry” to “Christophobia”? I’ve been wondering to change this for a while. Should I go ahead or get a wiki opinion first? What do you think? We need brain! Give us brain! 01:35, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Rational DudeI say, "No." As far as I am aware, the word "Christophobia" (which isn't even recognized by my spellchecker as a real word) is still mostly used by Christians in traditionally Christian-majority countries who falsely claim they are being persecuted. The mainstream media and academia don't normally use that word to refer to the very real persecution that some Christians face in other parts of the world. As far as I'm concerned, you're just validating the point of view of certain whiny arseholes who think saying "Season's greetings" instead of "Merry Christmas" amounts to persecution by lumping those wankers together with people who risk death just for being Christians. Don't use the word "Christophobia" is what I say. Spud (talk) 11:30, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- I understand, but I disagree since my viewpoint I also think we should change the category of “antisemitism” to “Judeophobia” since Jews are just one of many Semitic people. And I am aware of far right asshats who misuse the term to refer to anything they dislike, but the same argument can be said with people who misuse the word “Islamophobia”, though I understand the latter is a widely used academic term. Plus, I barely see “Christophobia” as a common term by rightist wingnuts when they talk about Christianity, they just say “anti-Christian bias/bigotry”, like the category we have (for example, Trump’s bill to fight anti-Christian bias).
We need brain! Give us brain! 15:27, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Rational DudeIf right-wing arseholes aren't using the word "Christophobia" much anymore, that probably means it's dying out. And it's not our job to keep alive words that are dying out. We do, however, have to strive to use the most widely used terms in the titles of our articles and categories. We shouldn't use less common synonyms that we think are "better" for some reason. Please don't go around changing "anti-Christian bias"/"anti-Christian bigotry"/"persecution of Christians" to "Christophobia". And please don't go around changing "antisemitism" to "Judeophobia". That is, not unless you want to end up in All things in moderation. Spud (talk) 11:00, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
- I’m not, I just wanted to specify my position and ask. I rarely change or make categories without asking anymore, I barely even make new categories these days.
We need brain! Give us brain! 22:53, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
- I’m not, I just wanted to specify my position and ask. I rarely change or make categories without asking anymore, I barely even make new categories these days.
- @Rational DudeIf right-wing arseholes aren't using the word "Christophobia" much anymore, that probably means it's dying out. And it's not our job to keep alive words that are dying out. We do, however, have to strive to use the most widely used terms in the titles of our articles and categories. We shouldn't use less common synonyms that we think are "better" for some reason. Please don't go around changing "anti-Christian bias"/"anti-Christian bigotry"/"persecution of Christians" to "Christophobia". And please don't go around changing "antisemitism" to "Judeophobia". That is, not unless you want to end up in All things in moderation. Spud (talk) 11:00, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
- I understand, but I disagree since my viewpoint I also think we should change the category of “antisemitism” to “Judeophobia” since Jews are just one of many Semitic people. And I am aware of far right asshats who misuse the term to refer to anything they dislike, but the same argument can be said with people who misuse the word “Islamophobia”, though I understand the latter is a widely used academic term. Plus, I barely see “Christophobia” as a common term by rightist wingnuts when they talk about Christianity, they just say “anti-Christian bias/bigotry”, like the category we have (for example, Trump’s bill to fight anti-Christian bias).
Draft[edit]
Hello Spud,
I'm writing to you again regarding the Draft:Subliminal audios article. I've finished working on the draft and believe it is now ready for review and moving to the main namespace.
I also wanted to ask for your help with one small thing. I tried to add a Wikimedia Commons image of a blue eye to illustrate the absurd claims of physical changes in the article, but it was automatically flagged as vandalism by the edit filter bot. If the article is approved, would you be able to add the image for me? I can provide the link.
Thank you for your time and assistance.
Best regards, Julia360
- @Julia360 I should be able to do that? What's the name of the file on Wikimedia Commons and where do you want it in the article? Spud (talk) 13:41, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Spud It was gonna be "File:A_blue_eye.jpg|thumb|250px|A common claim in the subliminal community is the ability to change physical features, such as eye color, by simply listening to audio tracks with hidden affirmations."