Talk:Social justice warrior

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This phrase has many layers or grift and reappropriation[edit]

it's a nuanced and long history FYI 2600:8806:0:C2:F4BA:8EB9:28DB:D8AF (talk) 13:06, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

The body of this article could use more quality citations and less 'digital journo' 4chan-era stuff, if the position is that 'social justice warrior' means literal 'social justice", which seems to be people's position on RW. Also it might be worth tracking down

  1. any parallells btw 1800s 'social justice' and the pejorative, or contradictions
  2. who else was in Shetterly's blogging network (he cites other writers)
  3. see if anyone was using "SJW" before Shetterly in a consistent manner 2600:8806:0:C2:F4BA:8EB9:28DB:D8AF (talk) 13:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Hey[edit]

Why can't I edit 75.181.210.53 (talk) 20:35, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

It's because you're resorting to cheap vandalism rather than anything insightful. Patty Pat 21:03, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Welp, I might be the bad kind of SJW[edit]

Welp, I might be the bad kind of SJW. ASerb (talk) 17:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

"Reapprpriated"?[edit]

This paragraph in the lede:

The term "social justice" was originally a Catholic one that originated in the late 1800s as a philosophy to reduce 'brutal class domination' and solve philosophical questions about freedom vs law that arose from Western Society moving from agriculture to industry.[3][4][5] The term was reappropriated in the 1960s to mean advocating for racial and gender demographics, among others.

This seems to be describing the FIRST usage differing from the original, so wouldn't it be "appropriated"? It can't be RE appropriated until it's been appropriated at least once, right? Simply in terms of proper language use? — Unsigned, by: 2601:14b:4900:6930::b910 / talk / contribs

Social justice covers all axes of oppression. This paragraph is stupid. I suppose you could say its purview has expanded beyond purely mitigating harm related to class violence, but class violence is still a system of oppression. Carthage (talk) 22:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
I mean, I guess? The paragraph's about the ORIGIN of the term. Which was my point about "reappropriated" not being the right word.

Recent edit[edit]

I just undid an edit to the page that looked suspicious to me. Admittedly, it looked a bit more suspicious at first glance than it actually turned out to be, and I acted a bit too hastily — I thought that the header quote was being edited when it was actually the header image caption — but I'm still not completely convinced that the edit was made in good faith. What does the rest of the community think? --Luigifan18 (talk) 17:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Eh, I think the edit was fine, though it's not a huge deal either way. My personal experience is that I've never heard "social justice warrior" uttered by anyone except for either: A) white male nerds obsessed and bothered by the idea of females and minorities with agency in their nerd products, or B) loudmouth, not very intelligent American reactionaries, of whom also tend to be largely "white" and "male". In all cases, I am trying to remember a non-hetero member of this group, even outside of personal experience. Maybe Milo Yiannopoulos and Andrew Sullivan? Hard to think of too many others. BobJohnson (talk) 22:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)