Talk:SyrianGirl

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This article requires attention for the following reason(s): Needs more references from reputable sources. The Daily Fail? C'mon, people, we can do better than that. All the other references are to this person's twitter account and conspiracy youtubers whose accounts have been kickbanned. Lack of depth and context.

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GG?

What's her connection with GG?--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 00:06, 29 May 2016 (UTC) 00:06, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

She is real, right?

I don't want to create my own conspiracy, but there have been a lot of attempts to influence western thought by other states. We do know that this surprisingly good-looking young lady actually exists and is not the creation of some syrian intelligence agency?Hubert (talk) 18:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

She wasn't magicked out of thin air by Assad no. — Dysk (contribs) 18:49, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks. But what I was really wondering was if there was any evidence one way or the other?Hubert (talk) 20:20, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Besides the fairly large amount of video footage which she appears in including multiple independent shows and podcasts? I think it's safe to say this is a real person. — Dysk (contribs) 20:56, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

@DysklyverWell, the links on the site are to the Daily Mail - which doesn't really fill me with confidence, and the youtube account which has been closed. So the only things on the actual page are the twitter links.

I see that wikipedia has an article on her. Maram Susli On the other hand the WP article led me to this Guradian artilce which has her as a "Russion account".

I'm not claiming she doesn't exist. But any other random skeptic landing on this page might well ask the same question.Hubert (talk) 15:58, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The more I look into this the more confusing it gets. The Russian news site RT comes out strongly in her defense. But, if you are accused of being a Russian false flag operation, them vigorous denials from RT aren't really helpful.

various other sites have her as a russian operation too. But I am not familiar with these sources and I don't know if they are any more reliable than RT.Hubert (talk) 19:08, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

If you're wondering if she works for the Russians, the answer is probably yes. :/ 20:44, 22 May 2019 (UTC)^{— Unsigned, by: D / talk / contribs}

Unless anyone has any objection I will add some of these doubts to the article.Hubert (talk) 11:49, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Maybe we should be even more skeptical

I was trying to check some of the links on the page but I find that both her twitter and youtube accounts no longer exist. This kind of supports the "Russian troll" idea - though, as the article states, this is vigorously denied by RT.Bob^{"Life is short and (insert adjective)"} 19:51, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Psychohistory

Maram Susli's family is descended from the old Syrian aristocracy under the Ottoman Empire. She comes from old money. The interests of this socioeconomic class is what has shaped her political views. They would never choose the al-Asad regime if they had any choice, of course; al-Asad comes from a radically different, formerly despised social group who are dirt in the eyes of Damascene old money. But the thing is, Maram's people are deeply invested in political stability. They have nothing to gain and potentially everything to lose in unrest or chaos. Any revolutionary change brings the risk of toppling their privilege, and only stability will preserve their privilege.

Hanging out with the likes of Alex Jones, now— The voluntary choice to ingest that mental garbage is all on her. Eeeww. Ipazia (talk) 17:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Deep down, the only "ideology" that motivates her is "looking out for my wealthy family's entrenched interests." As for all the Alex Jones conspiracy cuckoo Cocoa Puffs— it shows a disturbing susceptibility to irrational beliefs, such that if taken too far can even undermine her patrician socioeconomic privilege. Can RationalWiki come up with a rational explanation for irrationality itself?... <sigh>... Ipazia (talk) 17:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)