Misogynistic women

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They almost make me lose my ****. I'm considering doing a whole series on documenting and making fun of them at Bigotry Wiki, if you're interested. They are really bad considering the psychology of persuasion. You get a woman arguing for the oppression of women, and you get all the men saying "it's not sexist if a woman agrees with it!" Consequently, fighting them is extremely important.

Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox)22:44, 23 July 2013

It's a serious thing, yeah. Women who work to displace, or hinder other women as a class, disgust me. See: any pro life female politician. And yeah, it's always fun to see the excuse of "I don't think you know what you are saying, cause this woman disagrees, and she's a woman, and she says there's no sexism" (also "this guy is black and he says there is no racism". In fact one of the single most successful use of the "this guy is X and he says.." was in the gay marriage issues. The right found gay men who didn't think gay men should be married, cause gay men were - i dn't know, "different" "above that", "beyond traditional lables' etc. and so they could not only say "gays are bad" but also "and even gays don't want gay marriage, so why are we doing it".

Green mowse.pngGodot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability22:50, 23 July 2013

Black police officers tend to be far more racist towards Blacks then White officers, at least in places that aren't overtly racist. It has to do with people not being aware of self prejudice. It's even worse with misogynistic women who are even aware of the fact that they can be self prejudicial and yet they're ****ing arrogant about it. I really hate the misogynistic women who come up with examples of brainwashed women giving birth after violent rape and use it as an excuse to force that on all women.

Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox)23:12, 23 July 2013
 

"Denying women the vote isn't sexist, because some women said so!" (True story.)

Nebuchadnezzar (talk)23:14, 23 July 2013

Or pointing to people like Malcom X who wanted Blacks to separate as evidence for segregation because "Blacks don't really want to integrate."

Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox)23:19, 23 July 2013

I doubt the cop thing is self prejudice as much as needing to fight the prejudice in the line, so they work double hard to "fit in". "Yes, of ocurse i can do my job and arrest black people even if i'm black" etc.

And the use of "she is an X, and if she said it, it must be true" is part of the world of privlidge. using other people to make your point.

Green mowse.pngGodot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability23:32, 23 July 2013
 
 
 

I wonder how many of the misogynistic *****s who hold the "I regret having an abortion sign" actually had an abortion. Anyone can hold a ****ing sign. I'm going to find a dude to hold one of those signs to prove the point. Of those misogynistic *****s, I wonder how many of them only feel that way because of being indoctrinated by misogynists.

I am definitely having an abortion. That will require that I get laid. ****

Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox)20:39, 27 July 2013

It would also require that you are a woman. This looks to be going the same way as the whole rape thing. You seem to have picked a couple of issues that aren't likely to affect you directly, and are addressing them in very simplistic and somewhat insensitive terms.

I'm curious what five-letter expletive you might be obliterating in "misogynistic *****s"?

First, I may be a woman. I have not specified my sex. Second, I didn't mention that subject here, that was entirely you. If you think it's weird, then obviously you are being weird because I didn't mention it but you did.

Also, why do you have a problem with me being insensitive to misogynists?

Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox)21:31, 27 July 2013

You've made it pretty clear that you're male, & you're not only being insensitive to misogynists. When you trivilalise abortion & vulgarise the debate, you're being insensitive to people who take the issue seriously & have good reason to. That's people on both sides of the debate, not just misogynists.

"You've made it pretty clear that you're male"

Please explain.

I see your point and it's important not to trivialize things. I still fail to see not pretending that people trying to restrict the right of women are not misogynists.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/04/21/pro-life-lie/

Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox)17:13, 28 July 2013
 
 
 

I've honest to god, seen men holding up signs "Do not regret abortion like I do", specifically in Kansas maybe 10 years ago.

Green mowse.pngGodot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability22:39, 27 July 2013

At first that doesn't seem to make sense, but those men could of had a woman in their life they pressured or agreed with in having an abortion, and they could regret it now.

That's possible, but I don't think it's quite the same thing. And certainly they're playing too fast and loose with how such statements are going to be interpreted.

Scarlet A.pngnarchist16:59, 28 July 2013

My point is that the misogynistic *****s holding signs claiming to regret abortion a just misogynistic ****ing liars.

Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox)17:10, 28 July 2013

What's your evidence for that? Some women regret having an abortion.

SophieWilderModerator17:13, 28 July 2013

The fact that I find their claim highly doubtful that so many women are regretting abortion.

Of course, maybe there are with misogynistic indoctrination.

Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox)17:18, 28 July 2013

You just made two separate claims: 1) The women claiming they regret their abortions are fucking liars. - this is nonsense, lots of women regret their abortions, especially in today's climate, where they are punished endlessly. 2) The claim that "many women regret their abortions" is in fact disprovable. Statistically most women do NOT regret their abortion 3 months, 5 years, and 10 years after per several short and long term studies.

For feminists, "anti women" women like Schafley, Palin and Bachman are a conundrum because by the very core of what is feminism, they ARE feminists. They are active women, who have found their own voice, and have pushed into the world despite sterotypes, to effect change in the world. And in the case of women like Palin and Bachmann, they are in teh highest places of government.

At the same time, they spend every thought, advocating against women and even their own success.

I won't be pulled into an anti-women screed, just because the woman advocates something i despise. I'll still just go into a anti-conservative, anti "position" screed.

Green mowse.pngGodot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability18:27, 28 July 2013
 
 

Again with the misogynistic *****s? Seriously, what word is that? I'm hoping it's not "misogynistic whores" because that would involve some rather obvious dissonance, but I'm struggling to think of other five-letter expletives that would fit here. Anyway, RW talk pages have no obligation to be family friendly so you don't need to self-censor. Or if you do feel uncomfortable writing a word, you could try not to keep using it so much.

I prefer to self censor except in extreme cases.

Александр(а) (Talk | Contribs | Ragebox)18:21, 28 July 2013

Then you leave it up to other people to guess what you are saying.

 

Self censoring is one of the stupidest things I can imagine. If you don't like a word, don't use it. find somethign else suitable.

It's not like "self censorning' has kept you from thinking the word.

anyhow, my page is fine with bitch, cunt, peckerwood, fucker, god for it.

or find some non curse word.

Green mowse.pngGodot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability22:47, 28 July 2013
 
 
 

ADK - I think you know my view on this very specific point. I appreciate every person's voice in support of women's rights, but there is something odd about listening to men on either side, talking about the hardships of abortion, the importance of pregnancy, etc. In most cases, it's done in good faith, and appreciated- but it still feels like being talked about, instead of talked *to*.

I suspect that's similar to feelings felt during the post Martin/zimmerman trial - a lot of people talking about racism. A lot of people getting that something is very wrong, but the articulation of the problem by people like me, safe in our white middle class world, feels stilted.

But that's the way it is. better stilted than not at all :-)

Green mowse.pngGodot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability18:33, 28 July 2013