User talk:JoyousJerboa96
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TheOneAndOnlyCirrusMan (talk) 17:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Are you a troll?[edit]
"I seen that "unwelcome JoyousJerboa" revision in the talk page that you guys created."
Come on? Kadashova (talk) 21:59, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Here, on the right. https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJoyousJerboa96&type=revision&diff=2701259&oldid=2701224 — Unsigned, by: JoyousJerboa96 / talk / contribs
- I thought it was a bit odd how quickly you got labeled as a troll. If I had to guess, it's probably because we've already been getting a lot of trolls in the past few weeks for seemingly no reason. I guess it's a "better safe than sorry" kind of deal. Although I do question if it was worth it in this case. -- LunaAHHHHH 13:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not only that but they also claimed that I said "Everyone in my family used to be Obama Supporters and Now support Trump" Even though I never said that. Before (around, not exactly) 2022 much of my family held DIVERSE viewpoints (left right centre libertarian etc) and only minority supported Trump, but there has been a buildup to converting to Trumpism for years beforehand. These people on this site are intentionally misconstruing my words. The have labled me a troll the moment I posted to the Saloon. Since there's no convincing these dense, heads-up-their-asses people otherwise, well might as well lean into it. JoyousJerboa96 (talk) 15:37, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- I repeat: this is not an explicitly political site. BobJohnson (talk) 16:03, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- So why don't you ban political discussions outright. I thought political insanity did fit in to this site's supposed goal. False advertisement IGJoyousJerboa96 (talk) 16:06, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't you want to leave and never come back? This is partly why I blocked you and now really suspect troll; you are whining in several threads as well as several user pages about how much the site sucks and how everyone is an asshole or something. If you want to leave, leave.
- Donald Trump is mission-oriented but is also a troll magnet. I am not a moderator, just a contributor with an opinion. My opinion of now is that the site would be best if the focus was, shall we say, less political (although politics is unavoidable, stuff like Project Blue Beam is by far more the site's strength). And I gave my answer on what to do if you aren't a troll. Several others did too. BobJohnson (talk) 16:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- A core tenet of our mission is anti-authoritarianism. That's inherently political. Carthage (talk) 16:56, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly. Such is unavoidable. But, an over-focus on Trump on this angle is an over-focus on US-centric authoritarianism, and an over-US focus is an unfortunate tendency of this site (and is something which I am probably guilty of as well). For example, we have a giant article on Donald Trump (which is understandable) but absolutely nothing that I can find on Irakli Kobakhidze
(which is not). I also think that, from a "uniqueness" standpoint, topics that are not covered by mainstream media or Wikipedia will be the ones that get more attention. BobJohnson (talk) 17:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly. Such is unavoidable. But, an over-focus on Trump on this angle is an over-focus on US-centric authoritarianism, and an over-US focus is an unfortunate tendency of this site (and is something which I am probably guilty of as well). For example, we have a giant article on Donald Trump (which is understandable) but absolutely nothing that I can find on Irakli Kobakhidze
- A core tenet of our mission is anti-authoritarianism. That's inherently political. Carthage (talk) 16:56, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- So why don't you ban political discussions outright. I thought political insanity did fit in to this site's supposed goal. False advertisement IGJoyousJerboa96 (talk) 16:06, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- I repeat: this is not an explicitly political site. BobJohnson (talk) 16:03, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not only that but they also claimed that I said "Everyone in my family used to be Obama Supporters and Now support Trump" Even though I never said that. Before (around, not exactly) 2022 much of my family held DIVERSE viewpoints (left right centre libertarian etc) and only minority supported Trump, but there has been a buildup to converting to Trumpism for years beforehand. These people on this site are intentionally misconstruing my words. The have labled me a troll the moment I posted to the Saloon. Since there's no convincing these dense, heads-up-their-asses people otherwise, well might as well lean into it. JoyousJerboa96 (talk) 15:37, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- I thought it was a bit odd how quickly you got labeled as a troll. If I had to guess, it's probably because we've already been getting a lot of trolls in the past few weeks for seemingly no reason. I guess it's a "better safe than sorry" kind of deal. Although I do question if it was worth it in this case. -- LunaAHHHHH 13:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Everybody kinda sucks at beliefs and politics[edit]
I understand you came here for advice, and that's not exactly the way to talk to the people here. This site's 'advice' is more 'Declarative statements' to get ripped apart. I disagree with any advice to cut ties with your family, even it is probably impossible to share certain beliefs. It's okay to listen, and try to understand, and totally disagree. It is not important to disagree so vehemently as to ruin a holiday. I would encourage you try to find what is comfortable for you, whether it's arguing, steaming silently, or walking away this year and make a decision for next year. Nobody can tell you how your family will react if you say you disagree with them politically. Maybe politics will barely be brought up. Give them another chance this year, just don't let them use you as a punching bag. Torrent (talk) 05:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)