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[edit] Ken has a new hero.

Anders Behring Breivik[1][2]--Mercian (talk) 06:26, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

C'mon now, you know you're being unfair. Yes, there is such a thing as being unfair to Ken. This is a milestone. Ken is criticizing right-wing violence. nobs 02:39, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
No he's not. He's trying to deflect criticism of it and, to an extent,justify it.
By the way, Rob, you're on top form on CP. Your knowledge of the inner workings of the Republican Party is truly wonderful. London Grump (talk) 08:47, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
Prediction:Trump fires Jared Kushner, maybe Ivanka, too, when he gets back from Europe. It may be his last hope to salvage his presidency. If he keeps them and fires some other scapegoat like McMaster or Priebus, he may never pull out of this slump. nobs 19:10, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
It seems that crimes against liberals, from body-slamming reporters to the mass murder of 16 and 17 year olds is acceptable at Conservapedia, to the extent of mockery. Rob, If (when) Trump is impeached and it becomes clear that he is a bent as a 3 bob note, what will be Andy's get out strategy? There is an awful lot to over-sight and burn.--Mercian (talk) 02:00, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Impeachments probably is not going to happen, nor a 25th Amendment removal. But I wouldn't rule out him dying in his sleep from something he ate out of the White House kitchen. Latest rumors are him firing Priebus & Spicer, while keeping on Kushner and his half-breed Russian wife Ivanka who got their nuts in a vice with the FBI & CIA, while going with a full-bore Steve Bannon attack on media & Deep State critics. This would be a mistake; firing Priebus is his last connection to the GOP, and he'd loose 30-70% of the 40% base he's got now. Perhaps then, before Midterms, some GOP House members might start thinking about impeachment, depending on polling data in various House districts if it made a difference in retaining the House. But it would not be an issue in the Senate, were conviction or aquittal wouldn't matter either way.
OTOH, you have to look at the mainstream sources on this, which unequivocally are full of shit. Firing Priebus would be an irreparable breach with the GOP.
More likely to occur is, Mueller and company try to frame him up on so some bullshit. It could happen, but will take years.
If McMaster gets fired, then there's no repairing the breach with the Deep State Intelligence Community. It'll be a war of attrition, as he roots them out, one by one, all 8000 Obama appointees. He can't get them all by 2020, and he needs people like Ryan & Priebus to find replacements. It'll become a game of survival on both sides. nobs 02:52, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
This whole saga fascinates me. Thank God for the Separation of Powers in The USA.--Mercian (talk) 03:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
We've definitely reached a turning point in history. The latest headline is Merkel and the German's stand alone against Putin and the jihadis. I don't know what to think or believe anymore. nobs 03:24, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
I used to think The Separation was not a good idea but the brilliance of the Founding Fathers shines through, hats off to you Mr Franklin--Mercian (talk) 03:26, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Do you think the former conservative of the year runner-up come train-wreck is up to the job?--Mercian (talk) 03:34, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Pence? He's a Gingrich machine Republican. He could nominate Kasich to take over VP and everybody would be happy. Except the isolated Tea Partiers, but they've isolated themselves so much even Trump doesn't want anything to do with them. Only their so damn ignorant they haven't figured that out yet.
Granted, the Gingrich machine is getting old-school, but what set them apart from today's Republicans is, they were a veritable fountain of ideas. Even Obamacare - mandatory private sector insurance to head off a single payer system, Obama stole from Gingrich. Paul Ryan is the last of the Gingrich Republicans, overflowing with ideas, but one guy can't do everything himself, and for some reason, nobody wants to hear solutions today. People would rather just bitch bitch bitch, on both sides. Whether it's Trump bitching about the world, or the world bitching about Trump. Nobody cares to focus on anything else. But Pence seems undistracted. nobs 06:58, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Obama's Religion

Nobs, is trolling big time at cp:Obama's Religion. "(Allah be praised)" really? Hclodge (talk) 01:44, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Photo bias

Andy has created an article on cp:Photo bias. For example, cp:File:Hillary on the campaign trail.jpg

When image cp:File:Obamaatcampdavid.jpg was placed on the cp:Obama's Religion page, Andy removed it claiming that it would be cp:photo bias. User:SamHB came back with a well-done rebuttal on cp:Talk:Obama's Religion#Absurd rationale for removing the picture at the Evergreen Chapel The page is still a mess. Hclodge (talk) 15:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

The Obama's religion discussion is recent but photo bias was created back in 2007. Christopher (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
This is a very interesting question. Why, when you enter the name of anyone in Google, you get the Wikipedia photo in the results EXCEPT for one entry: Donald Trump. Rather than getting the official White House photo, you get a rather unflattering view looking up his nose? nobs
Because it's all a huge fucking conspiracy against YOU, nobs. You fuckin' found us out! Good work! Now get back to Comet Pizza; I think that's ready to break any old time now! Semipenultimate (talk) 23:23, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Hmm, yep. A nutcase listens to InfoWars and it's Alex Jones fault. A nutcase shoots Rep. Gabby Gifford's and it's Sarah Palin's fault. A nutcase works for Bernie Sanders and listens to CNN, shoots Rep. Scott Scalise, and it's the victim's fault for not voting to ban guns from the mentally handicapped (Sanders supports) after Sandy Hook. nobs 00:11, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Andy on the warpath

It is getting difficult to keep track of all the groups that Andy is warring with at this time. The list so far:

  • Reince Priebus (who should be fired)
  • The Koch Brothers
  • Anybody pro-life
  • National Football League
  • Anybody who promotes a Constitutional Convention
  • The Democratic Party
  • Paul Ryan

It is more than a disagreement with these groups, it is a primal urge to write attack pages about them on Conservapedia. Hclodge (talk) 04:58, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

I've been thinking of doing an essay discussing Living Constitution vs Salafism. Seems to me US & NATO allies foreign policy has been to get the Islamic judiciary to adopt the idea of a Living Koran and dump cp:Originalism. nobs 06:48, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
You better write fast. If things keep going at the present rate, the current NATO countries plus the mideast will all join the Warsaw Pact to seek Putin's protection against Trump's aggression and erratic policy shifts. Hclodge (talk) 00:22, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
A link to a Conservapedia article? Why would you think we would go and find out about anything on Conservapedia? We go there to laugh and occasionally throw peanuts at the inmates. London Grump (talk) 18:53, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Mission drift

Is there anyone left at Conservapedia who is trying to write an online encyclopedia? Over the years, people dedicated to encyclopedia writing would be kicked off Wikipedia and find a home at Conservapedia. The remaining active editors do not seem interested in this any more:

  • Aschlafly - no longer care about the material being accurate and up to date. When JDano pointed out that editors should go back and note on cp:Donald Trump achievements when a court overturns a rule on judicial review, he disagreed noting "a court ruling against an action by Trump does not erase the achievement."
  • 1990sguy - seems more intent of compiling a bullet point list of Breitbart articles discussing alleged Trump accomplishments than in writing unbiased prose.
  • nobs - still working to compile his CIA-centric world view one bullet point at a time.
  • DavidB4 - college student who seems sincerely dedicated to the project.
  • Conservative - mostly on Homosexuality and atheism.

Hardly anything happening to build an encyclopedia

Bullshit. My Arab Spring article, an ambiguous term, is the definitive text you'll find on the Obama legacy anywhere. Still needs some copyediting. But as the Obama Presidential Library Archives are opened, we can fill in the blanks to support the definitive text. nobsAloha Snackbar 19:24, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
We love you too, but neutral prose counts more than bullet lists when building an encyclopedia. Where did everyone else go? Hclodge (talk) 19:43, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
It is (semi) neutral prose. Have a look. It's an eye-opener. nobsAloha Snackbar`
Dear Rob, above you say "Bullshit". I totally agree, a better word cannot be found to describe your article. Although it is less "Bullshit" than all the other articles on Conservapedia. How very sad.--Mercian (talk) 21:43, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Assuming the article is accurate and well-researched, what credibility can it have when it is hosted on a site that is a fake news aggregator? Hclodge (talk) 08:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
The Dunning-Kruger is strong in this one. Don't go changing, Rob. It will be a long time til we come across someone as blissfully full of shit as you. Definitive text indeed. London Grump (talk) 11:35, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
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