Category talk:Anti-Catholicism
Creating a category for general anti-christian sentiment[edit]
I've noticed that for categories on pages regarding some people who oppose christianity, the category "anti-catholicism" is used rather than a general category such as "Anti-Christian". I personally think it would be less confusing to add this category alongside this category, since we can add it on pages of people who actually oppose Christianity, like members of the Nation of Islam and the Alt-Right. Rational Dude (talk) 22:26, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- The alt-right opposes Christianity? --Luigifan18 (talk) 20:31, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Only those who reject Christianity due to antisemitism, but I’m also referring to the Nation of Islam.
I’m not 100% sure, I’m just suggesting since it’s been pretty confusing regarding pages on people and groups who actually oppose Christianity, when the category “Anti-Catholicism seems to be used in place. Rational Dude (talk) 00:17, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- One of the characteristics of certain American evangelicals in the past was that they considered themselves Christian, but be virulently opposed to Catholicism, who often they actually did not consider Christian at all. Sometimes this opposition went to the point of going to conspiracy nutzoid levels. (Jack Chick is an excellent example of this sort.) In older American history (prior to say the 1970s), Catholics were also targets of hate (by groups like the Ku Klux Klan) just like other marginalized groups today. From the description, I think that this sort was the purpose of this category. Simply being against the church isn't enough, you have to either go to way-out-there into conspiracy land or Catholic-phobia territory to qualify.
- This means there's probably some mislabeled articles. For instance, from my viewpoint, the alt-right has a more "complicated" relationship with Catholicism, in America at least, as the powers that be in the Catholic church there are divided into pro-Francis and anti-Francis schisms, largely on the same tired culture war shit. Several alt-right figureheads actually have actively tried to court the anti-Francis Catholic side. So I'm not sure why alt-right is shoved under "anti-Catholic" unless there's something I'm missing. BobJohnson (talk) 03:25, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
I see. My bad, I have seen some articles discussing atheists and mysticists/occultists within the old nazi party and the alt-right who have been said to reject and oppose christianity, though I understand if you are skeptical as they may have been written by religious rightists who probably scapegoat nazis as leftists.
Plus, having such a category would deter snark and snide from sites like conservapedia who scream about sites like here being "anti-christian", despite the fact that leftists can be (and sometimes are) christians. Rational Dude (talk) 04:02, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Now that's funny. Only Anti-Catholics within Christianity are mentioned[edit]
Plus, didn't Hitler profess to be a Catholic? Later he endorsed Islam. MrLW97 (talk) 17:59, 1 January 2023 (UTC)