Category talk:Extreme moonbattery

So are radical feminist transphobes wingnuts or moonbats? Sheila Jeffrey's speaks approvingly of Norman Tebbit! When wingnuts and moonbats agree with each other, there is not much of a difference. Maybe, we just need a Category:Haters or Category:Extremists. (Besides, I don't like the word "moonbat", because I think bats are cute, and I like the moon, so moonbattery is something I have to endorse.) (((Zack Martin)))^™ 02:08, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I'd say throw them in with the moonbats for now. I agree with you about bats and the moon, though. Blue (is useful) 02:39, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Bats are not cute. Bats are creepy. And probable vectors for rabies. There's a reason the goddess Maratrea chose the bat to scare children.--User:Brxbrx/sig 02:41, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Bats are adorable, and almost none have rabies, though they always carry that stigma. --GodotVAGINA, Vagina, vagina vaginaVAGINA 02:42, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

And they eat mosquitoes and other pesky insects. On a summer night in the wooded Northeast, Brx, you learn to welcome the bats. Blue (is useful) 02:43, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

(ECX2) we used to have bats in the farmhouse, then we built them a bat-house were they now reside. Тy^talk 02:44, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

[1]--User:Brxbrx/sig 02:46, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Those little insect-eating North American bats can be cute, but not as cute as the big massive fruit-eating ones we have here in Australia

They are like puppy dogs with wings. Bats here don't have rabies, but they do have Hendra virus, Australian bat lyssavirus, Menangle virus, which are similar. Have killed a few people - normally humans aren't directly infected by the bats, usually the bats infect horses and the horses infect the humans, and at least one dog. More often than not fatal, but not quite as fatal as rabies I believe. But it's not the poor bats fault, it's just our weak human immune systems can't cope with what to them is a relatively harmless infection, like the common cold is to us. (((Zack Martin)))^™ 04:35, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Whoever is putting every single communist page in this category, cut it out.

Aside from being unhelpful (just put the entire category and main page in here, dammit) it's also ahistorical. Yes, you will get no disagreement from me that anyone advocating for Lenin/Maoist-derived communism after the 50s is probably a moonbat and after the 70s is almost automatically one, but putting people like Stalin and Trotsky in there is stupid for the same reason calling Frederick the Great or Abraham Lincoln wingnuts is stupid. Historical figures should only go in the extreme moonbattery/wingnuttery pages if what they advocated for was extreme even for the time. So John Calhoun or Herbert Spencer or even Adolf Hitler are too behind the curve of history to be considered wingnuts (even though they'd be considered such today), but, say, Aurangzeb or Nathan Bedford Forrest or Lord Shang -- people considered extremists even by their own contemporaries and in historical context -- could be candidates. Dr. Swordopolis (talk) 19:02, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Agree completely, and this goes for Kropotkin too, whom I'm taking out of this category now. Any group currently advocating Maoism or Trotskyism probably does belong. Secret Squirrel (talk) 11:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Ok but Lenin is under this category for some time now so I put Stalin here too given that Stalin was, if anything, crazier. ClothCoat (talk) 21:07, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

One of these things does not belong

I'm looking at this list: Animal Liberation Front, Animal Rights Militia, Cathy Brennan, Earth Liberation Front, Ecoterrorism, Freeganism, Gay Shame, Globalresearch.ca, Hardline, David Icke, Jim Jones, Korean Friendship Association, Lyndon LaRouche, Pennti Linkola, NAMBLA, National Labor Federation, Progressive Labor Party, Race Traitor, Re-evaluation counseling, Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, Weather Underground.

And then this list: Tom Harkin, The Huffington Post, Pyotr Kropotkin, Dennis Kucinich, Bill Maher, Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, Al Sharpton, Richard Stallman, Truthout, Gore Vidal, Henry A. Wallace, and Howard Zinn (who I just removed from the cat).

Could we like maybe have some objective criteria for inclusion here? One of this lists is people and groups who are clearly delusional, extreme, and 'not even wrong'. The other is people of varying degrees of leftiness who may have said or wrote a few embarassing things you could cherry pick, but on the whole they don't belong in this category. More to the point, any site listing the 33rd vice president of the United States as an extreme moonbat is a site with serious problems. Secret Squirrel (talk) 11:12, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm breaking it down

Into authoritarian moonbattery, liberal moonbattery, and libertarian moonbattery (for anarchist and libertarian socialist left). ClothCoat (talk) 21:30, 4 June 2015 (UTC)