Conservapedia:What is going on at CP?/October 2007

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Actual conservative user [1] is banned for five years[2] after creating a page about RationalWiki. Apparently mentioning RationalWiki like mentioning the FBI is a big no-no on Conservapedia as this unfortunate right-wing extremist nutjob found out.
Massive wandal attack underway! Astream, Fstream, Vstream, Lstream, TKstream, and they keep coming... BrianCo tries to stem the tide, but HALP! he can't block! Ed. note: these are not RW members. We have more class than this.
Head, meet desk. Apparently like Conservative, RobSmith is a big fan of quote mines. Hell, it even says most of the quotes are out of context!
In the tradition of their "noun" article, read up on hyperbole at Conservapedia. (According to the "liberal style" list, though, only liberals use hyperbole...)
A Seattle Times article claims voters may be turned off by discussion of a political candidate's religion. The result? Conservapedia completely misrepresents the article and scream religious intolerance!
BethanyS hates fun.
Karajou spins a yarn about scientists wiping out the Great Auk. Nice story...but not true.. The Great Auk was hunted to extiction for its feathers, the last known couple was killed by two men working for a private collector in 1844, and the last seen Great Auk was in 1852. No mad scientists killing the "last 50 Auks" for museums then.
RobSmith plays the song about love between my brothers and my sisters by banhammering HelpJazz for "tendentious editing" Update Like every action Rob makes, it involves a totally unsupported conspiracy theory! Does Rob blame communists when he has to go to the bathroom, or what? Commentary: After looking up Rob's word-a-day-calendar vocabulary, the reason that Jazz was blocked was for having a point of view.
Thanks to a random vandal for pointing out how ridiculous Conservapedia's "noun" article is. Placement bias, anyone? How about this for a sentence: "Right-wing fundamentalist Christian conservatives have truly disturbing worldviews, made even more disturbing when forced on unsuspecting children." Update: The hypocrisy is mindnumbing.
Chief Justice Roberts discusses the importance of "Constitution." Since there's no "the" before "Constitution," I assume the Chief will be talking about the Dungeons & Dragons trait?
CP hypes a study showing that online sources and talk radio were more neutral than newspapers. However, they only covered 5 online sources: CNN, Yahoo News, Google News, MSNBC, and AOL, all part of the "liberal" media. No WorldNetDaily or "Newsbusters". And, contrary to what CP says about the report, the highest scores for neutrality went to PBS and NPR, with the lowest going to talk radio (with conservatives doing slightly better than liberals).
This one cracked me up. Check out the first reference (certainly "authoritative" enough!)
Even Huckabee isn't conservative enough for the crusty old hag. Does any candidate meet with her approval or is she too busy fellating the corpse of Ronald Reagan?
Andy criticizes Wikipedia (what else is new?) by claiming the pop culture section of their Prodigal Son article has more words than the section about the parable itself. Which is hilarious since if you take out the massive quotation in the middle, CP's "article" is even shorter (269 words in the parable section of the WP article, 204 in CP's, even including references and titles, both having had block quotes removed)
"An example of [guilt by association used by liberal activist groups] is the smearing used by Conservapedia, by associating individuals with the John Birch Society." - Freud: 1, Lukecorlando: 0. Update: HelpJazz to the rescue
Speaking of image names that would get Conservative's attention...
At what point did CP stop pretending to be a serious project and instead just became a place for "conservatives" to wank? (By the way, Rob, it's "toe" the line, not "tow".)
Seriously, this is a misleading name. Although I'm pretty sure Conservative has another image that immediately springs to mind...
Man, this one guy's not even trying anymore. Of course, he wasn't trying ever; he's only made one edit. Oh yeah, all of CP must be like this too, because this one guy is. (The sad part is, a huge part of CP actually is like this, especially Andy's bits)
TK blocks Bohdan? Apparently seriously? What...? Update: Bohdan has been unblocked. That lasted... less than 5 hours?
Possible sysop candidate says, "Kick me out & my pictures come with me!"
TK retracts his warning about pedophiles, likely because he was risking spoiling RobS' fun.
Disagree with Andy? Sounds like a personal problem to me. DanH feels the need to be "insultive", too.
From Planet Rob, an airstrike over Wikipedia! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! ROB IS ANGRY FOR... SOMETHING! HELLO TK! What is going on? First TK is turning into Ken (see below) now Rob is showing symptoms. Is there something contagious over at CP? How long before Ed Poor starts prematurely announcing forthcoming edits by "famous" conservatives or imminent spikes in Alexa rankings?
The accidental death of a clam is the fault of modern science... not the human error of the college-aged researchers who killed it. At least, Karajou thinks so.
TK supports Icewedge wandalism to Bohdan! He even gives reason that it does no harm, but shortly takes back his statement. Awwww.
In one of his more WTF-moments, bigot RobS ponders whether all left-wingers goose-step to the gay agenda. Yet on planet Rob (pop. 2), Fred Phelps is a left-winger. I suppose that makes God Hates Fags part of the gay agenda?
TK wants to democraticize authorship. That means that the public is the ultimate authority over an author's fictional universe! Shh... this might mean that TK is a closet communist. And, man, does TK love that one Coulter quote; he must have posted it a dozen different times. Too bad every word of it is completely untrue. More deceit from those who practice it best.
Andy seems to think that some wikis are "done" at some point or another
Is this TK parodying Kenny, or have their phobias really merged?
If you don't accept creation myths that have been universally discredited by scientists for lack of any evidence whatsoever, then it's not science, it's an "atheist origins myth".
To little minds, Islam the religion and Islamic terrorism are the same thing.
TK: The world's biggest hypocrite.
Further proof of the great minds and intellectuals that inhabit CP: their "masterpiece" of the week is by Thomas Kinkade. Apparently CP's definition of a "masterpeice" has something to do with whether or not it matches their living room furniture.
Is anyone else getting tired of Andy's schadenfreude with regards to public schools? Seems like every time an American school-child fails to achieve an academic standard, or gets shot, there's Andy, jumping for joy. Sigh. For bonus lulz, look at the diff, and notice how school-snob Andy messes up the grammar.
I never get tired of this rule, especially when it's enforced by the guy who claims that only the evil left shouts down poor people like racist Holocaust Deniers and censors free speech - or that Hugo Chavez is as bad as a Holocaust denier.
They're not that kind of brownies! Homskullerz don't do that stuff!
Nothing like defending a known racist and Holocaust denier. Even better, Andy showcases the piece. Update: RobS removes it from the main page. Could Rob possibly think that attacking liberals at the price of defending holocaust-denying bigots isn't worth it? Update (pt.II): Alleged human being TK has no problem with it. What are the odds?
Aren't we overreacting just a little bit to a fantasy novel? I mean, Jesus Chr... ooops. But seriously, folks, let's all just chill out for a moment. Is there nothing in popular culture that isn't offensive to Conservapedia? Next they'll go after Will & Grace... in fact, I think they have.
And the "Ray Charles Design Award" goes to Jallen for her brilliant contribution that led to blue links on blue background
Only sysops are allowed to keep unreadable sigs.
PJR actually has the guts to say that something added by Andy is "incorrect", right after Andy defends his "public schools are atheistic" claim: Tune in to the Public School section.
Andy's talk page gives me headaches: First, Metapedia is competition for CP - that surely explains a lot... And secondly, the Dumbledore discussion leads to a nice "Bad Cop / Bad Cop" tag-team scene by Andy and Kara.
Jesus asks humanity to accept & be tolerant towards only those people who don't sin. What? Luke, I think you're very, very confused.
Gays, much like murderers, are a plague that afflicts the Earth until the Second Coming. So says TerryH/Temlakos.
Andy claims that drug use by his (tiny) class of Christian homskullerz is zero. He's so naive, it's almost cute. Then you remember that he's a total nutbar, and it's just pathetic. Update: Andy is losing this argument, having relapsed into stating his premise as his conclusion... which means that AppleCyder is not long for this world. It is also very ironic that Andy can accuse anyone of being in denial... Update: Yep, banned
A user challenges Conservapedians to prove the existence of God, but is blocked, since "Conservapedia is not a soap box for challenges." Ken is right, in a way: there is nothing about Conservapedia that challenges anything... except credibility. Apparently, Conservapedia isn't a place for people with memories longer than a month, either. We remember Conservative making just the opposite challenge last month, sadly expunged by one of Tk's "archiving" binges, but faithfully recorded on rationalwiki.
Incredible. Li'l Andy admits he has nothing to back up his claims, and not only stands by his unsupported and unsupportable claims, but threatens one of the people trying to point this out.
I'm sorry, this is just hubris, on multiple levels. Note Andy's clever method of citing things he's not sure about (see Note 3)
Schlafly's been writing about some court cases that discussed marital privilege against self-incrimination, which he calls "marital unity". What else counts as marital unity? Well, coverture, for one: the ancient concept that a woman loses all legal rights except through her husband upon marriage. So romantic. Don't you long for an era when women had no rights? Schlafly does.
You're *bleep*ing kidding me, right?
OH SNAP!
Blacks in the 19th "centery" were not "formelly" educated. But they sure could sing.
15:25 -> Crocoite censors a post that mentions a few uncomfortable truths (as well as RW). 15:39 -> Crocoite posts this: "Where's the Freedom of Speech?"
After an off-site commentator notices how many pages are "permanently protected," and how Draconian that sounds, Andy removes the "permanently protected" template from all articles. But will their protection status change? Signs point to no.
Andy's talk page gets purged and "restored" by Jallen. Nothing says, "We've got something to hide" like people burning evidence.
TK believes that if you visit CP for laughs, you will eventually convert into agreeing with their insanity.
Andy apparently ran out of ideas for new articles, so he simply creates new articles for synonyms of old articles
Funny how CP has failed to pick up on this bit of vandalism from a banned user... We could assume that they just missed it, but since they so readily claim wikipedia supports the work of vandals over there then maybe we should assume CP too supports this baseless personal attack
I must admit that Kenservative's tirelessness on the homosexuality subject is --up to a point-- admirable. On a second thought, it's bordering on an unhealthy fixation, actually. And editing with the preview button is a lost cause.
Japan doesn't work that way. For Christ's Sake, what the hell is TK smoking and how can I get some?
More of a general observation: When most of your entries are "concise" (read: only one or two paragraphs long), you should avoid emphasizing the lack of content by having an extremely long sidebar.
Not sure what surprises me more: The fact that Con-"How do I upload images?"-servative pinpointed a technical problem or that Andy actually managed to solve even 10% of it. (Completely unsurprising, however, is the fact that Conservative is all mysterious about the nature of the problem in public and yet publicly announces how he sent a mail about it.)
In a weird bout of irony Ed Poor shows his fascism towards the poor
A Business founded almost a hundred years ago by a (debatable) racist is a racist business.... Gee, what does that make the United States? A Slavery Supporting Nation?
The War of the Colors continues... Charming Beth attacks with ivory, and now Conservapedia looks positively ecclesiastical.
Stanley Kubrick should have been black-listed (note that SSchulz added the "conservative viewpoint" some time after the article was created and resisted attempts to change it as "liberal bias")
Even more fun over at the Dawkins talk page! First, our li'l guy Kenservative gets to show off how great their Dawkins article is (could this be sarcasm he's met with?), only to be met this disdain from TK, who acts the part of the mean, drunk uncle who tells his 6 year old nephew his real opinion of his drawings. This spawns a mini-edit war over the heading in the talk page, off all things. TK gets fed up and informs Kenny that CP isn't one of his blogs (of course not, it's Andy's), and, with a final dose of hypocritical hilarity, tells him that it's unprofessional to tout negativity in an encyclopedia, thereby condemning the entire raison d'etre of Andy's blog, while paying lip-service to the tired notion that CP is an "encyclopedia" ad somehow strives for "accuracy".
What. The hell. Is this.
Oooooooh Karajou is back... "Another Fine Navy Day!"
The de-sysop-ing of Hojimachong. End of an era. Bye to SarahB and the liberal Elamdri as well. Who is next? Place your bets! Update: TK wandalizes Hoji's user page...?
Lemme get this straight - on planet Rob (population: 1 2), Fred Phelps is a "liberal activist," but liberals speaking out against him are practicing "liberal hate speech." Also, with TK increasing the population of planet Rob, labels Phelps' website as liberal.
Noted paranoid (and favourite correspondent of Ames) RobS is on a ~~writing~~ copy-and-pasting tear: Conservapedia. WikipediaAlso: Conservapedia. Wikipedia. And of course: Conservapedia Wikipedia
TK decides that quoting from one of the educational, clean, and concise entries in the trustworthy encyclopedia is deceit. Go figure.
What are we going to do with you, TK? That's probably one of the very worst articles on Conservapedia. And Liberal Hysteria, a common name? Where? In your neighborhood? Tut tut /:(
TK adds cuteness to Conservapedia. And blocks user DougM after two "combative" edits. How limited, TK and Karajou... how limited you are.
The ~~revert war~~ between TK and Conservative continues, even after archiving! Spoke too soon, as TK deletes and restores the archive once more.
Gosh, TK, could you violate copyright just a bit more?
RobS admits in an e-mail that a good deal of what he does at Conservapedia is deliberately slanted, biased, and targeted to anger RationalWiki members. Friends, Conservapedia has ceased being an encyclopedia, and just RobS' way to make us angry, apparently. TK also admits in an email that Phelps isn't a leftie, but decides to leave the deceit in the article anyway.
I realize that most conservatives live in the past, but this 2004 lecture is just ridiculous. Although everyone ought to wish Andy's side luck oral arguments before the Supreme Court... they're scheduled for December 3rd... 2003.
Two things TK: you're a dumbass and a dick. From Jazztard. (For those of you who don't channel Rob Smith, here are the facts from which the strange extrapolation being drawn: when TK's block expired [3], Boru decided to immediately make lame edits [4], so Jazztard decided to block Boru for 3 months [5] and explain his block to the always-suspicious TK. He then, in an unrelated matter, showed TK another article which goes along with the theme TK copied to the main page earlier [see below: "For your daily dose of hypocrisy]. Obviously this means that Jazztard severely hates TK and wishes to call him a dumbass and a dick to his face. </channelRob>)
The new Main Page salmonish color is causing a bit of, er, animosity among the Schlaflettes. Lovely BethS asks, with usual CP civility, if they're getting ready for Valentine's Day in advance. TK (who else?) retorts first. No matter that Assfly had Godspeeded Jallen for her "effort". UPDATE: Jallen conceded, tried another color, then another and finally made up her mind. Doesn't work, in my humble opinion.
Assuming he can only be referring to his loooong discussion with ex-Conservapedian Jazzman on the liberal talk page, Rob calls one of their better ex-contributors a "cyberterrorist".
For your daily dose of hypocrisy: TK ~~writes~~ posts a front page piece about bad Democrats scoring cheap political points after a tragedy... (Yeah yeah, and most of that text was copy-pasted from the source there - please don't tell me you're surprised.)
Looks like we got hit by a Conservapedia vandal!
TK reverts the oddest things, doesn't he? Doesn't look like vandalism or trolling to me, more a question he'd have trouble answering.
TK attempts to bury the sysop argumentsabout Prof. Richard Dawkins.
It's just incredible how obsessed Conservative is about homosexuality. With so much work to do in that wanna-be encyclopedia.
Coming soon... The TK Ultimatum.
TK attempts to argue that global warming is real, but we can't do anything about it, so let's keep doing what we're doing and screw the consequences. And at the same time argue that "the Gore crowd really actually cares little about the future."
Bohdan tries to steal our lulz.
Oh noes, socks! What about the possibility that he just knows someone else in the same town as him? There, that's much more convincing! Time for a victory high five! Update: Just had to point out that this happens right after this. It's just too perfect.
This may not be Conservapedia, but it concerns Conservapedian TerryH/Temlakos, who apparently thinks it's polite to claim victory in a debate when a user who's been blocked doesn't reply. But our own Bayes will have none of it! Too bad he was blocked shortly thereafter.
Ken's called out on his numerous, single-word-changing, recentchanges-filling edits. Good fun.
TK, always cute, wags his finger at DanH and improves the "Fire Safety" article with a couple of cute images.
Hold on...Mumia is responsible for Antioch's enrollment going down? Whaa?
Andy sez: The bizarre theme of one book is not good enough.
Of course there was never any Criticism of Ronald Reagan
Evidently Ashlafly cannot tell the difference between a Liberal college and a Liberal arts college
RobS states over and over and over that Fred Phelps is a liberal (or at least a leftist, which may or may not be an entirely different thing), but never gives one example of any liberalness.
Hmm... isn't it funny that they criticise wikipedia for not allowing "silly names", and yet allow the obvious spelling mistakes in Konservative kanadian. If they were "Korrupt Konservative Kanadian" the vandalism/sockpuppetry would be klearer to the klueless...
TK escalates, but suggests a way out: all that has to happen for Ken and TK to be buddies again is for Ken to... stop being Ken. Which, of course, isn't going to happen... and TK's about to get another e-mail.
Andy Schlafly's contributions have slackened lately; he's not even debating anymore. Karajou is "retired" to CreationWiki, DanH is barely still there, Hojimachong spends more time here, and Ed Poor just gets crazier and crazier... but he, too, is mostly inactive. Friends, I think the End Times are upon us.
Is this how the end begins? Will the wrestling of the great powers-that-be spread and tear the site in twain? Probably not, but it's good fun to watch. Update: Oh snap! Update 2: A fresh coat of whitewash!
Conservapedia ethics: dear Phyllis Schlafly quoted (and her article linked) on the Main Page. Tut tut >:(
The fallout from Ken's head-to-head with TK/Andy continues apace. It's often said that when elephants fight, it is the grass that truly suffers... but here, the grass fights back, and calls Ken an "evolutionist." Well, well.
Remember, kids, assault is justifiable if you're kicking someone's ass to make a point about the homosexual agenda or the evils of abortion! Is this why Schlafly really opposes hate crime bills? So he can't beat up pro-choice activists and get away with it (despite being little more than a noodle-armed choir boy)? Conservapedia: family friendly... with a vengeance!
What's this, a block war? Can't these guys just get along? Also note that TK had the nerve to complain about a block mere moments after a warning.... Pot, Kettle, Black anyone?
Finally someone joins CP with a sense of decency, AJCG comes out and admits he would be biased if he edited a certain article and choses to comment on the talk page instead. Sadly some chose to twist those words to mean he never intends to edit in the mainspace. Update: The twisting continues: This isn't the first time AJCG joined a wiki - after all, he knew how to navigate! The logical reply? You can pick up those things by reading on a wiki project. Kara: "Nobody can read a wiki if nobody writes in one."
TK is continuing to blast away (this time on Order's talk page) and calls Ken "Kenservative" while blasting his total lack of reason on his other articles!
Holy fracking hell - TK calls Conservative out! Move forward in this diff to see Ken's reply... who will win? Only time shall tell! Update: TK really lets rip. I thought only rational wiki was allowed to take the piss out of poor old Ken!
HelpJazz smells vandalism... from us. Check out his "banhammer". (By the way Jazztard, if you're reading this, or TK, it's vigilance, not vigilence. This Conservapedian grammar is going to kill me. UPDATE: Not to worry, these people do read our site; it was fixed 6 hours later.)
Awww, isn't that cute? TerryH thinks he's a man.
cp:User:Steven45 attempts to defend CP against a Liberal deceit-monger, using the old canard that Conservatives don't deny Global Warming Exists, just that humans are the cause, to which TK responds enthusiastically. Too bad CP's own article on Global Warming spends most of its space denying that the earth is warming to any appreciable extent. Who you mean "we", paleface?
Ken just glove-slapped Andy. Stay tuned for updates.
Ken DeMyer: acclaimed jurist. God help us all. BONUS: in the same diff, you can see the edit comment from TK, blasting Ken for his revisionism. Even better, Ken revises his wording again, disregarding TK's edit comment from before. UPDATE: Ken, neutral jurist that he is, appears to have decided the case against Andy already. Can't say that we disagree, but Akjgordon makes a good point: is it wise to take on teh Schlafly?
They sure summed up Peter Jennings well, didn't they?
Karajou discovers a new word "insultive," that he uses here[6]and here. [7]What the dumbass does not seem to realize is that there is no such word according to Webster's and the OED.
What makes Conservapedia so "trustworthy"? How do they keep such an encyclopedic tone? Well, juvenile cartoons help, especially where appropriated without permission from the image's owner.
HelpJazz thinks he can bring the kind of nonchalant blockwar fun we have here to Conservapedia. It's almost sad.
Friends, most often, WIGO brings you what's worst about Conservapedia. But sometimes - in fact, just this once in a long while - we bring you news about a sysop doing something good. Without further ado, we give you... DanH. Thank you, Dan, for standing up to monumental stupidity.
Finally, a term that defines Andy and most constupapedians [8]
Whoo-Hooo!! Conservative reverts his entries to talk:Richard Dawkins [9] and Andy's talk page [10]. I guess daddy came home and spanked that booty! But TK isn't having any of it. Revert war, round twooooooooooooo!

I checked my pulse before saying this, but I agree with TK, Peter LaBarbera is a nutjob!
The new edit war, in which Conservative sides with the liberal editors on Dawkins' talk page, as especially seen here, continues apace. Stay tuned for details. Update Well, well. Looks like daddy came home. Someone's gonna get the switch! Update 2 It would appear there's been some action behind the woodshed, as Ken cleans up his traces. But TK isn't putting up with a complete whitewash just yet.

TK and Conservative: bffs.

DanH joins TK's side in the latest war. The flames erupt some more, and Ken bites the block once more... twice more... and again, but this time it's his IP address (SUNY Buffalo). Pictures of this clusterfrack may be found to the right.
Ken's press exposure sounds like it could be big - after all, the website is a "leading intelligent design leader"! Wow. But, luckily, the fact that all Conservapedia sysops hate each other is sure to undermine this process, somehow. Update Sound red alert! Another Ken/TK clash. Let's see if TK's dragon is still bigger.
Looks like The Conservative Who Cried Wolf is at it again. How many times have his grand promises gone bust so far, anyway? Update Oho! Looks like Kenny boy has tipped his hand. Will this be as disappointing as his other "sleeping dragons", I wonder?
~~Looks like RationalWiki is back again!~~ - Deleted, lasted 2h 59m. Update: This time we have the evidence. Hello TK!
We probably shouldn't make fun of people for spelling errors, but this is a bit ridiculous. It's a 3 letter word for chrissakes (or at least it's supposed to be) and it's correctly spelled as the first word of the damn article! Update: As further proof that sysops read this and benefit from the insights of RW, the article has now been moved to its proper title.
OMG!!! Obama didn't put his hand on his heart during the national anthem!!!1!!11! What a commie Nazi anti-American wife-beating terrorist bigot fascist pedophile! And to top it off he doesn't have a cliché corny flag lapel pin! How can this man ever expect to lead this nation? Further proof of CP's belief that coloured folk don't have what it takes to be President.
Bayes, Order, and McIntyre kick Andy's ass on the Dawkin's talk page. But not to fear! Faithful lapdog Karajou blocks one user [11], then replies to McIntyre asserting that "the question's been settled!"[12]. Oh, and of course the page is locked [13]. After all they don't want constupidpedians to find out that their fearful leader is a freaking idiot!
Holy Shit! Can it be that our li'l guy Kenservative actually made an article better? (Note I said "better", not actually "good").
Is this what y'all mean by a "Schlafly Reversal?" When arguing about the validity of Dawkins's professorship in the UK, what matters is your opponent's position on classroom prayer in America.
Isn't gossip forbbiden on CP? Schlaflass missed it... unless it affects a conservative, not a lesbian.
It seems that "Professor" Schlafly is still irritated with Al Gore's Nobel Prize, so he displays his own vision of what a Nobel Laureate is and strong evidence of bias within the Nobel committee.
A user posts a question about morality for TK, mentioning Kant and the categorical imperative. TK responds in his own special way accusing the user of a lack of logic. Take that Kant!
One day after blocking a user, unblocking him, and then blocking again, TK repeats the process, blocking him for for 5 years claiming "Impasse, user will not conform to CP procedures" Like CP's gonna be around in five years.
Authors expanding the stories of the characters they created is revisionism. UPDATE: Rowling's sold 325 Million books and has more money than the queen, but she needs to be Liberal Or she'd fail.... Guess that explains why Crichton is on the street (only 125 million)
Breaking news! Hospitals in Cuba (in the bottom third of nations by per capita GDP) are not as good as those in one of the richest countries in the world! Who would have thought that? And yet the liberal media didn't put this scoop on the front page of every newspaper. Thank god for Newsbusters. (By the way Cretipedia, it' not the quality of heathcare in Cuba that people comment on, but the access to healthcare. First rate hospitals aren't much good if you can't afford a bed in one.)
Lukecorlando apparently can't make up his mind. (Either that, or he still hasn't discovered the preview button.) Perhaps he learned editing from Kenservative?
Can it be? Andy has discovered bodily functions! [14] [15]
There is no longer such a thing as Conservative Intellectualism
As are many of its fans.
Noting that existentialism as a philosophy needn't exclude faith in god is liberal bias. Of course it is, Aschlafly, if it wasn't you couldn't use yet another tragic death to score cheap idealogical points now could you?
Ummmm, that would be "Greek," not "Roman."
Professor McIntyre called it. Andy keeps trying to change the subject in the Dawkins debate. [16]
Memo to Conservapedians: the Harry Potter world is fantasy. Magic, in that context, does not exist. Check out our own article, but don't steal anything!
I understand that university students get charged with plagiarism when they do this. Not home skoolerz, though, right Assfly?
THIS IS IT!!!!!...We've made the big time!!!!!! Heh, only for 5 measly minutes. In case you're wondering what this is about, someone created a page "RW", filling it with our main page boilerplate ("About RationalWiki") along with our "rogue's gallery" list of Conservapedians from Conservapedia:Newcomer's Guide. The CP powers that be didn't take too kindly to it, especially the latter part, and deleted it after 5 minutes. Then TK, the sneaky little bastard, paid attention and did a deep burn of the evidence, totally nuking the page and its history. Nice job, TK!
Want to see something really creepy? Try this. UPDATE: Yeah Rob, you got files on everybody... and good digging indeed, just google "mugshots" and voilà.
An immensely helpful ~~category~~ which lists a number of those "educational, clean, and concise entries" that CP is so proud of. Update: TK threatens and later double-blocks the user for all his hard work in trying to help (that's vandalism of course), and reverts every single item on the list, making the category an empty page. That's the thanks you get for contributing, Masterbratac!
Yet another edit war!
Professor McIntyre points out Andy's habit of changing the subject when he is getting his butt whipped in debate. [17] Maybe Andy will reply with some Schlafly Statistics! [18]
C'mon Rob, tell us how you really feel. UPDATE: Rationalwiki, a site to be "erased from the memory of man, for all time". Damnatio Memoriae!!!
Andy Schlafly deletes Ed Poor's bit of racist drivel, prompting Ed to fall into line, telling Andy to thank RationalWiki members for catching it.
Conservative answers just a little bit late.
Conservapedia isn't like Wikipedia and all their guilt by association, nosir!
Resident bigot and SS-wannabe Ed Poor thinks homosexuals should be locked up in prison or an insane asylum. Update: Repentance, Senator Poor! So his comment should have been "If homosexual behavior is due to your being crazy (as in kleptomania), you should bear the guilt in an insane asylum. If it's due to your wilfull defiance of what is right, you should bear the guilt in a prison." So much better!
TK finally loses it, and there is an important difference between being a human and demon. Care to cite that?
Pertinent facts about Leon Trotsky? It's a comic strip. (And a comic strip that specifically cites "rumor" as a source.) Seems that removing bullshit is liberal, but they won't be fooled.
Conservapedia's math articles rise to great heights MORE: Their approach to mathematics just gets curiouser and curiouser. It's hard to tell whether this is just their normal rampant ignorance and stupidity, or actual wandalism/parody. I vote for the latter—it's way too eloquent.
Keeping the stupidity level high, Andy ponders this little thought. We are talking about a minor skin infection right? Not the Black Death. Also, it's comforting to know that Conservapedia, which we know never deals in anything resembling gossip, has a front page article about a scabies infestation in a college dorm.
Justice Scalia: liberal.
More infinite wisdom by RobS: a scabies outbreak in a dormitory, and the solution is co-ed dorms. It makes no sense, except if you accuse liberals of it. Now it makes perfect sense!
All liberals are close-minded and intolerant, but thankfully RobS finds evidence that Fred Phelps is a better man than the rest of the librulz.
As if you needed evidence that Andy is a sheltered mama’s boy, here it is: He has never even heard of scabies.[19]
A single edit impulses our favorite serial killer TK to reaffirm Conservapedia values, launch a terrifying threat and protect the page.
What's the best article to make fun of Al Gore? How about orator Dan Quayle? NOT SO! It's the picture at the bottom of the page for professional bigot Fred Phelps.
BREAKING NEWS!!!! You won't find this hidden in the liberal bias of Wikipedia!
Another unreferenced cut and paste bit of plagiarism from Assfly.
An oldie but a goody: check out the edit summary, Poor Ed hates the Jews, too. But we already knew that, didn't we?
The irony makes the baby Jesus cry.
Goddamn does Conservative get excited easily. But it never leads to anything. It is merely offered up whenever his fat is in the frying pan, to get out of whatever trouble he is in. Doesn't anyone at CP realize this? Update: The nightly lockdown ends, and both ends of the spectrum instantly come crashing down on Conservative.
One might think this would be a lot bigger considering it's used as a litmus test for just about everything under the sun.
Maybe it's fowl language? Honestly, maybe the guy was just a Top Gun fan. Then again, maybe BethanyS is with the "Name Police"?
Whoever would have thought it, TK sees the light
Wait...did TK just compare Andy to a young child? (Either Andy or Conservative at least - both use the article as their preaching platform)
The truth? DanH can't handle the truth!
Its official! In spite of the millions that died in the trenches during WWI, the buthchery of Rwanda and Kosovo, the rape of Nanjing and the whole Japanese invasion of China, WWII, the battle of Leningrad, the Crusades, etc. etc. etc. The American Civil War, was the worst war ever fought because a whole bunch of Americans died.(good old CP knows other nationalities don't matter.) Update TK slips in and fixes the problem, but doesnt leave an edit summary, hmmm, methinks he doesn't want others knowing he responds to RW criticism.
Conservative inserts his own pet article into the Dawkins article. Is this the odor of deceit being smelt, waiting for the article to be protected later on, so his edits can go unchallenged as they are in Theory of Evolution? (Before: [20], [21], during the edit warring)
Nothing terribly shocking or exciting here, just more evidence that Conservapedia editors write like sixth graders. I'm grading papers right now, and my worst D minuses are better than this.
Andy's ongoing insanity about Richard Dawkins continues, generally making him look like a total idiot. But is he doing this for a reason, however insane? Maybe it's so he can extend his bogus criticism to all evolutionary scientists. Meanwhile, dishonest toady Poor Ed tries to save his Master by introducing new lies.
"Wikipedia decline roughly coincides with the exposure by Conservapedia of its bias". What's next? Richard Dawkins did 9/11?
Say Ed, why don't you just come out and say you hate black people?
More evidence that TK is taking over CP? We report, you decide. It's interesting to note that Andy is becoming more and more a boogeyman that's invoked rather than an administrator who's taken seriously.
Men are more masculine (manly), and women are more feminine. No kidding. In other news, Ed Poor is a sexist. Addendum Women have breasts for spiritual reasons?
Wow it's like lightning!
Fred Phelps - confirmed liberal. Why? Oh, he once supported Al Gore, 20 years ago.
TK - knows that the Bible is factual!
Aziraphale, you poor dear thing. You were such a cheerful editor, but you made one wrong move, and your efforts show for nothing. Will TK Godspeed to your rescue?! Update: Yes.
TK, always polite, bunts into BethanyS talk page and answers a question for her. Then blocks the liar. Family-friendly encyclopedia my ass.
Yeaaaahhh..."probably". Trusworthy just got a whole lot better!
I about fell out of my chair on this one.... Wow
So apparently correlation is causation - Wikipedia has been declining for 6 months, and Conservapedia has been "popular" for six months! Coincidence? Probably... yes.
This has to be a new record in pointless editing. Kenservative creates an article on a magazine, then moves it two minutes later, citing "new name of journal". I know things move fast in publishing, but not that fast! For extra credit, Kenny boy is really bad at writing references.
Jesus.
Now I know Rob Smith isn't a real historian. He admits to using Little Green F*cktards as a source.
The Liberals have taken over the Nobel Prize!
TK, theologist and astronomer
TerryH from CP, a.k.a. Temlakos on CreationWiki, spreads his hatred of us!
It's comforting to know that some things never change. TK is being his usual, pleasant self.
Philip Rayment makes it so hard to tell parody from what is (apparently) Biblical truth. Seriously, Phil?
TK spots parody. Check it out.
Remember, kids, page counts don't matter.
...and the universe collapsed on itself
Oh, I'm sorry for this simple misunderBANNED!
The night of long knives will commence soon, and Schultz is wagging his tail in anticipation.
Nice knowin' ya, OurMike! Update OM survives for now, but one of Andy's loyal lapdogs anticipates his orders. Good boy!
TK is a very, very special fellow. Indeed.
Hold on to your socks! CP has disabled new account creation ([22], [23]) Well, that at least might explain why a March account was suddenly activated again... and, it makes it all the more apparent that CP is now, officially, Andrew Schlafly's private little blog, which must be walled off & insulated from opposing views so the strange viewpoints housed within may "prosper."
Look at the pretty stars! And the pretty 3D letters! Pretty! And the pretty massacre on the talk page!
Ed a liberal? Andy thinks he is, because he had to remove the liberal placement bias which was introduced by Ed.
Ed poor says liberals are "pro-black," whatever that means. Does that mean that since conservatives have the opposite beliefs of liberals, that they are, by definition, "anti-black?" Whatever that means.
Robert's complex question seems to be the new touchy subject. Ask about it, and you'll be banned over and over again.
Deceit from Campeche?
Crocoite makes sure the important news gets heard. 0H N0ES!!
Tragedy in Cleveland. Time to put on our exploitation caps. UPDATE: Someone's on the right track But jump for joy, TK's here to explain it all. UPDATE: Thank you for contributing. You'll be banned any minute.
RobS really needs to work on determining causation, especially since his conclusions don't account for the fundraiser at the time and, aren't really supported by the source
Oh noes, Wikipedia is ~~dying~~ declining! There are only 7000 new users and 1500 new articles ...per day.
Conservapedia reaches the epitome of hypocrisy. In following project guidelines an admin at WP locks the Richard Dawkins article after an extensive edit war ([24][25][26][27][28]) that he was not involved in asking its participants to take it to the talk page. Two such discussions take place [29][30] and the article is unlocked at the end of a mere three days which after the course of much discussion now has properly sourced criticism in its latest revision . So much for allegedly trying to censor a quote, and even if it was it is very superficial when compared to the permanently locked pages on CP which have received no edit warring or vandalism
Is that deceit I smell coming from Kenservative? Last time I checked when you are QUOTING someone you are to use their exact words. But I guess Kenservative is known for embellishing a few quotes here and there.
Oh, THAT explains it! So much for the other theories about why Conservative's been making so many articles on homosexuality recently. Also, Cons, once you read this, some links would be mighty convenient to back up those claims. Update: 10:00 PM, EST: Still no details forthcoming. Update: OH NOES. But, obviously, it will happen tomorrow right? Right?
RobS gets philosophical, and concedes, for once, his intellectual shortcoming(s). Also, wha?
Looking back at the numerous Ed Poor entries this week, it seems like he's trying to break some sort of idiocy record.
Goat has been unprotected at Conservapedia since its deletion and "re-creation" today, to hide the surprisingly large page views the article was garnering... It was later deleted and recreated several times in the same day. Goats are apparently just too popular for CP to handle!
Maybe its because of the language barrier, but can this be right? (Nope, that's not gossip, not at all!)
Ed deserves no sympathy... although he does try really hard to keep his racism in check. And, remember, if Jesus were alive today, he'd spend his entire life making gay people feel badly about themselves, apparently. Ed's version of Jesus is one hateful fellow.
Poor Ed. We give him a hard time, but he tries. He really does try. But for all his trying, he doesn't really seem to understand how condescending this edit summary sounds.
Hey Rob, basic rule of thumb... When calling someone "incompetent," make sure you spell it correctly otherwise you just look stupid
TK gives his own version of a Logical Response to a Question ..... Someone's been Chugging the Red Bull Again. (Bonus points for the completely out of place and nonsensical Wizard of Oz reference though)
Two more editors discover that resistance really is futile: Jenkins in the "Bill Clinton and the Gay Bomb" discussion, and Ajkgordon in the discussion about Dawkins' credentials. Both discussions (should you somehow have missed them) are worth a look, if just to lose your faith in mankind.
There have never been gay people in the military... not until Clinton became president anyway! UPDATE: Someone at CP has a cortex. Sadly, Rob had his surgically removed.
Wow...When Karajou calls you stupid, well...there really aren't any words for it.
You want the goat? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE GOAT!
This. Is. The. Most. Fracking. Crazy. Thing. I. Have. Ever. Seen. Gay Bomb is crazy enough as it is, but to suggest that there's a government cover-up of it? RobS, you are one for the ages.
Cage match! And this time, no killer robots! Just Dawkins v. Schlafly! Update: It gets even better!
69 kids got polio from the vaccine? Better de-vaccinate the billion people that have been spared the horrors of polio because of the vaccine!
From the way these two act so closely, you'd think they'd support homosexuality. Buttseckz plz?
Another professional cut-paste job by Andy (scroll to "Liberty Interest").
Conservapedia is going to drop da bomb on 'em! "See also: Homophobia and Homosexual Agenda" - whu? Update: Finally! Rob conservapedifies the article and makes crucial connections. He can't possibly be serious, though, can he?
Is this guy insane, or just a parodist? Either way, he's quickly embraced (Make my day!) by the village people... then meets the banhammer for being a parodist (and is subsequently unblocked), proving Poe's Law true once again.
Oh Andy, you scamp! You're accused of dishonest debating, and how do you respond? By tossing around accusations of deceit, which you back up with even worse deceit! Oh, what hijinks will you get up to next?
Conservative is obsessed with sexually transmitted diseases and teh gays !!! Or, (for conciseness), here.
"Clarifying" apparently means that anything connected to Dawkins is bad and has no redeeming features.
To celebrate their Faith entry having some Google rank, Andy reverts almost two months of work.
This one you can understand, but this one will need an explanation.
The trick paid cash, get in there and do your job boitch!
TK uploads and posts an image of the anti-government protests in Burma. Strangely, though, said protest seems to be taking place in the midst of an anti-WTO riot in Seattle, Washington, USA... at least RobS is able to sniff out the ~~deceit~~ disinfo of it. TK somehow blames liberal deceit.
Another small victory for RationalWiki and lib'ruls! Andy removes some of the most egregious parts of the Dawkins article, but says he's just "trimming" it. Deceitful? Nah.
Homosexuality is apparently a choice, just like... racism. Poor Ed... no sense of irony. But on the plus side, Ed has finally shown his true feelings towards us "Negro's"
Why do new people join CP? To contribute to the New Leading Site About {{subject of the week}}? Nope. Just to cry over Wikipedia deleting his project due to Notability rules. Update: OMG, Andy doesn't jump on it!
The Professor has spoken!
Wow, TK is a little touchy about this subject is isn't he? Maybe he just cares deeply.... Nope, he's just a Jackass
Copy the article... and the pictures! And don't give the website, just put USGS! I love this contest!
This little statement is, in short, everything that is wrong with America. After all, why talk reasonably about politics when you can just call someone a name and ignore them? On a side note, RSchlafly adds a comment to the discussion, so should you call him a liberal too, SSchultz? Update - Edit war and protected. Bannings will probably soon follow.
Just because he votes like a conservative, doesn't mean that Pete Domenici is really a conservative.
Andy, who is teaching a course on American Government, doesn't understand how the legislature reconciles disparate bills, but then claims they were never disparate in the first place.
According to family-friendly Conservapedia, gays get a lot of hot action. Maybe I'll switch teams....
My goodness gracious sakes! Someone has noticed the CP sysops' "burn the evidence" style of archiving the main talk page. I assume that, (and most other uncomfortable things), will be whitewashed before the next ~~burning~~ archiving. Edit: Blocked and deleted less than an hour later!
We'll have none of that here!
I wonder how much more Andy can bugger the truth before Richard Dawkins is in a position to sue his ass off.
Rush Limbaugh is ALWAYS RIGHT...... If he attacked soldiers, they deserved it. Update: Look, I think it's trying to say something. Go on, TK. What is it about the fake soldiers you want emphasized?
Oh noes! Did TK's CAPS LOCK BUTTON GET STUCK?
Obviously, retroactive application doesn't exist in the netherrealm that is TK's Brain Update: Looks like someone is paying attention, even if not actually learning anything.
TK made a funny. I thought that this had something to do with the Little Mermaid, but then I quickly figured it out. TK, it's "aerial". Update: TK apparently doesn't know how to use a dictionary. Has this gone past funny into the realm of tragic?
Wow! How is Professor Andy ever going to get out of this one? I'm betting on: Block, Delete, Whitewash. Curiously, none of the goons have done so yet. Looks like Andy'll have to soil his own hands. Update TK tries entrapment instead, but someone sees through the ploy. Better luck next time.
Check out some of Learn Together's "quality" entries, the reworking of this section was so well done you could hardly notice the difference, and he gave himself 8 points in the team contest for this! Methinks this page is rampant with deceit
Not satisfied with the New Ordeal, RobS coins a new term for an old event that generates a total of seven Google hits - five of them being Conservapedia, and that only because it spams Google with three domain names (Conservapedia, Conservepedia, Conservpedia).
TK has a problem
Over-reliance on Mockery .... Number 12 methinks (The real comment on the left)
This is definitely an article that no online encyclopedia should be without. Update Leave it to the anally-obsessed Kenservative (makes you go hmm, don't it?) to choose a first reference that disagrees with his premise. Update 2: Off to AFD with you! Update 3: Looks like TK has decided Gay Bowel Syndrome is going to stay! Hooray TK!
Most of Wikipedia's article are useless trivia. But when conservapedia does it, it's just fine.
TK has got to learn to read diffs. He's been removing a talk page comment saying it wasn't by Maestro but by an impostor who signed his name even though the edit is clearly by Maestro.
According to TK, it's other people's job to find sources for the ridiculous statements he makes.
RobS blocks a vandal, which is all well and good. Except that the block reason is "racist troll". The troll part is fair enough, but not a single edit by that user is actually racist. Between him, Kenservative and Poor Ed, does anyone over there actually know what racist means?
The wheel - man's first attempt at defying God(?!).
TK adds an image of Al Gore and two users are quick to reply [31] about it. TK reverts the edits (claiming a conflict) and then locks it from any further common sense. Trustworthy, indeed!
The first rule of Conservative Deceit: You don't talk about Conservative Deceit. (Liberal Deceit is cool, though.)
Did they release some sort of happy-gas on CP? TK and Jenkins are having WAY too much fun right now.
Everyone remember Johnny Two Times from Goodfellas, the guy who said everything twice? Well, Conservapedia has its own version, only this one doesn't understand punctuation.
Jenkins is back! And he's not pulling any punches. Of course, his critique of CP's google results and his mention of our lovely site were not allowed to remain for long. 9 minutes, in fact. How long before the hammer comes down for good?
TK once again shows his incompetence in archiving the Talk:Main page, even after it was called to his attention in the past. Update: Maybe he really is incompetent.
Chernobyl wasn't an environmental disaster - that's just more liberal hype! (Also, Ed Poor can't count)
Oh no! Conservapedia's "Goat" article became too popular! Better nuke it! Now, as a sidenote, perhaps someone's been artificially inflating page views on like articles? Perhaps this site isn't actually growing rapidly?
DeborahB inspires a new generation of cut-and-pasters!
Acknowledged parodist, Conservateur, is blocked by TK, and by a STARTLING COINCIDENCE, it comes just after RW members take note of CP's very unusual leniency towards him, and even approval by Andy. Something to make you go hmmm...
A Liberal makes a change to the Deceit article (my god! It's not protected?). Is there any chance Andy will let it stand? Note that the statement about who might practice deceit more, liberals or conservatives, now has a citation, although it is to CP's article on "liberal". Update: of course, TK had to "clarify" it, but the source for this egregious statement remains a Conservapedia article.
And the lord giveth and taketh away. Wonder why, because JoshuaZ's last edit was Aug 5th. Perhaps it had something to do with inserting reason and rationality into CP articles?
Once again, a "Breaking News" item goes completely against what the linked source actually says. Once again, the sysops make shit up and try to drag the discussion away from the issue at hand.
A nice gentleman came along and expressed concern over a certain picture on a certain user page. He was then, of course, banned.
A very liberal entry on Pat McHenry... deleted after three hours, 23 minutes it was posted. SysOps aren't working hard enough, Ms. Schlafly!
I can't wait either [32]
Thanks to TK's Manual of Style changes requiring title case for articles, CP contest participants can now get points for re-copying-and-pasting articles in title case that they copied in normal case for the previous contest. See Quorum call vs Quorum Call, Presidential signature vs Presidential Signature, etc. in the United States Senate Terms category.
We're fairly sure that Conservateur is a parodist... right?
X does not exist.^{[Citation Needed]} Removed liberal "citation needed" insert - not necessary to prove something does not exist.[33]
User Conservative can spell the word 'quixotic' but not 'color.'
RobS's quirky mental problem (the one that makes it impossible for him to stay on topic, and forces him to bring completely irrelevant information into any discussion) strikes again, this time bringing domestic abuse among homosexuals (and Hillary's poll numbers) into a discussion on whether there is a relation between violence in schools and lack of prayer. Update: He is now bringing up Wicca in a discussion of migration of birds.
Well, well, well, look what we got here. Seems that Andy does not mind when others copy from Wikipedia unless it is against his ideology. Wikipedia article.
Proof that Maestro is a liberal.
The CP soap opera continues, as TK calls Ed a "crank" and removes his criticism of the Global Warming article. Apparently even criticizing articles that other sysops had a hand in writing falls under TK's 11th Commandment.
Almost having run out of targets, Ed decides to challenge his fellow sysops by calling the "Global Warming" article a mess and suggesting its deletion. Good: The thing's been locked since June, and look at the muppets that have been editing it over the past couple of months.
Can someone explain the burka picture near the bottom of Ken's user page. It seems to be a bad attempt at a joke saying that Darwin was an atheist, but the picture clearly shows three Muslims... Is this just another show of ignorance on his part, or is it blatant racism (implying that Islam is not a true religion)...? Update we did it, after being up for over a month the image and offensive caption are finally gone. Unfortunately Ken's sense of humor has not improved, and he continues to resort to ridiculing opponents with false claims rather than actually trying to understand the merits of their arguments [34] (the original quotation still remains here)
Thank heaven for small victories. See the WIGO entry three below this one.
The content is a little dry, but this entry by Poor Ed is a masterpiece of slow reaction times. Also, directing a message to someone who was unjustly blocked months ago? Seriously, if you want a conversation, you're welcome to come here.
Breaking news: Wikipedia blocks Ed "The Saint" Poor! And to show how "breaking" those news are: By the time Andy writes a sob story about it, the block has already been lifted. Update: Being the saintly soul he is, Ed is quite forgiving on WP and assumes good faith, while talking out the other side of his mouth on CP. You're an inspiration to us all, Ed! Update 2: Ed whines about the blocking sysop not apologizing, and Andy promptly echoes it. Maybe a bad time to mention that "silly demands for apologies" are liberal style...
Apparently, when you block, devalue, and ignore all criticism, you can create for yourself a happy little world where your idiotic ramblings are "unassailable." There is a point where ignorance becomes more than willful blindness, and subsumes with self-aggrandizement, to become sheer stupidity. That point is referred to, in theoretical physics, as the Ken DeMyer point.
Because only Christians are altruistic. Not Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, or atheists. Only Christians.
Finally someone stands up for common sense and decency. Wonder how long until they get blocked
Selective reading for great justice. Potentially tripping over semantics is now lying, even after clarification to show that it wasn't meant to be an attack. Update: WHAT - THE - *bleep*
Aschlafly leaps like a starving weasel on the one sentence in a two page long article that vaguely supports his viewpoint safe in the knowledge that none of his cronies will actually read the text behind the paywall. In reality the article is a testament to man's ability to radically alter his environment.
Don't remind Conservative of the "loving God" thing... it gets awkward.
Okay, this one has me stumped. Update - even after being "desatirized," it still makes Conservapedians and YECs look like the morons they are.
The Kosovo conflict was an easy war. "Says Who?" you might ask. Aslfilyfy, that's who. Also, does anyone know what the hell an "easy war" is?
Wait, What?!? Update: TK drastically improves CP (and lowers the Lulz ratio) by deleting the article.
Return of the "concise" (read: "factually wrong") headlines: "France ready to join NATO" - and don't bother us with facts, yo!
Potential soon-to-be-sysop Tash vandalized RationalWiki! The IP has been confirmed to be Tash's. Do we care? No, not really... it just makes the whole, "only liberals practice deceit" thing ring a little more hollow. I wonder if Rob is going to fiddle this troll, or call the FBI?

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