Debate:Are there any compelling UFO cases?

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What do you folks think?

Do any of you feel that there any UFO cases that are compelling, even on an emotional level and if not what do you think UFO case would need to be, in order to be compelling?

Personally, I like to look at UFO cases out of curiosity. I consider myself to be agnostic regarding the paranormal. On the one hand it's interesting to hear from the people who witnessed what happen but on the other hand the explanation from the Skeptics always works as well. So what do you think?

Answers

• I recently read David Clarkes' "How UFOs Conquered the World: The History of a Modern Myth", it hit a nerve with me as I recognise the author's journey from credulous assumption of "there must be something out there", while being let down by the all too human 'witnesses'. A reality check for those who are a little too eager to believe anything without further investigation. There are soooo many explanations for 'lights in the sky', that to be honest you would have to be somewhat gullible to be taken in, you just have to apply rational thinking. And for heaven's sake how could "Venusians" talk to just one guy via his taxi car radio !? Saucer Fury (talk) 12:55, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

• Ufologists are all quacks or cranks and not one case has any merit to it. For a compelling case, the Little Green Men would have to land in a public area in full daylight. ListenerX^TalkerX 02:59, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree, there will be no completely hard evidence on UFO's until they show up in a public place, in broad daylight; an interview of the crew wouldn't hurt either. However, I wouldn't jump to calling all Ufologists cranks. I haven't done much research, but for now I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Out of curiosity, do you have any specific reason not to? --Stilldeciding (talk) 02:11, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps....I had an experience with my cousin one night in the early 70's. We were on a rafting trip on the middle fork of the Salmon river in Idaho. We were watching Satellites passing overhead that night (in our sleeping bags). We watched several, two or three, pass overhead and disappear over the horizon. The next one was the surprise! It appeared on the horizon and I directed my cousin Tammys attention to it. It tracked along as the others had in a straight line, about the same speed , just a pinprick of white light same as the others....until it STOPPED....more or less above us in the night sky. It remained stationary for approximately 4-5 seconds and then split into 3 pinpricks of white light (all seemingly the same brightness) which did something odd. They engaged in a "dancing? jiggling?" motion around each other for 1-2 seconds.....they then did something really strange. They sped off from one another apparently trisecting (120deg from each other) the night sky and all were out of our sight within a second or two over the horizon. One of them had basically reversed direction, disappearing over the horizon in roughly the same area it had initially appeared. There was a moment of silence....."Did you see that?", "yes" she replied. This was pretty compelling to US. Csgt428 (talk) 18:05, 26 November 2014 (UTC)csgt428

No

So far, no, I haven't seen anything compelling. I'd be interested to see something that had merit, but despite years of listening to Coast to Coast AM, I haven't. Let me know if you find something.--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia} 03:16, 13 November 2009 (UTC) Example: the Ghostbuster Gals.--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia} 03:18, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I highly doubt it.

While there's a fair amount of 'unexplained' cases, most of them have too little information on them full stop to make any judgements either way - as such, we should probably say no. --䷉䷻䷶䷈䷰䷒䷰䷈䷶䷈䷡^䷶䷀䷵䷥

So what you're saying is that we need better data, right? user Ryantherebel

OK, so there's probably something out there - the law of large numbers suggests this but, until wormholes in space enable them to jump the vast interstellar distances - there simply too far away. Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space. Bob Soles 00:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Could I have a drink, please? ListenerX^TalkerX 00:25, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

How 'bout a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster?user Ryantherebel

I don't care if I'm 7 years late. Well done sir. Also, here. It glows in the dark too.

It is compelling that there are so many of them

I'd first search though all of these before coming to any conclusion. http://nuforc.org/webreports/ndxevent.html and the bluebook archive found here: http://www.bluebookarchive.org/ and all the cases reported to MUFON here: http://www.mufon.com/

Any reasonable researcher must practice due diligence, or else they risk being unsubstantiated in their conclusions, therefore making their argument invalid and inaccurate. Roo (talk) 18:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Remember

On the Planet of the Greys etc (who are at roughly our level of technology) they have equivalent discussions about 'strangely coloured visiting entities called Humans.' Anna Livia (talk) 13:22, 24 February 2020 (UTC)