Debate talk:Homosexuality and statistics

Actually, I'm haveing a bit of a problem following some of this. For example could you clarity the following sentence? Simply being female, 1 in 4 contracted HIV out of the entire population than men.--Bob^{bing up} 13:41, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Using parantheses to demonstrate the syntax of the statement: (Simply (being female (1 in 4 (contracted HIV) out of the entire population) than men))). ^{wild ass guess!} --Eira ^yay! The Goat be praised. 14:06, 9 January 2008 (EST)

But can you diagram that?CЯacke® 16:45, 9 January 2008 (EST)

I honestly couldn't, because I find it extremely difficult to understand sentence diagrams. Rather I know the linguistic approach of drawing syntax as a binary tree, which is what the parantheses are intended to more accurately convey, while still being simple enough to not further complicate the sentence. --Eira ^yay! The Goat be praised. 17:21, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Actually, I'm still not sure the sentence is well constructed. Rather than illustrate the syntax, could you explain what it means?--Bob^{bing up} 17:25, 9 January 2008 (EST)

"Simply by being a female, a person has a 1 in 4 prevalence to the entire population." ... it does appear that the "than men" is a spurious error. I will fix it in the article. Thanks for noticing! --Eira ^yay! The Goat be praised. 17:34, 9 January 2008 (EST)

OH and I was just joshing above, as the explanation, (the parenthetical note) did little to increase my understanding of what it was you were trying to convey. See, I'm not sure whether you're saying:

• 1 in 4 are women re: HIV cases
• 1 in 4 of females in the population in general.

CЯacke®

Judging by the numbers in the table, which Eira presumably used to get that figure, I'm guessing it means that about 25% of the total number of people diagnosed with HIV are women. (11,710 female HIV diagnoses out of 44,140 total HIV diagnoses)--Bayes^update 17:50, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Well that's on me then. When I come upon a page that has bunches of numbers interspaced with text, I think statistics and mine brain shuts off. CЯacke®

heh, the word "population" (meaning population of HIV diagnoses, right Eira?) as used in that statement probably was ambiguous. Although if 1/4 women in the entire US population had HIV...well, I'd have another reason to go to Canada.--Bayes^update 18:10, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Yes, the "entire population" only extends to HIV cases. I see the ambiguity, and realize that it's yeah, not 1 in 4 in the population in general. BTW, I knew you were joshing me... :) You may have to look out for my odd literalistic humor. Sometimes, I think it's funny to just "not" get the joke. I also think that lying to people by convincing them, or at least having them consider, absolutely absurd stuff is absolutely hilarious. This makes just about everything I say ambiguous as I may mean anything to be indicative, sarcastic, facetious, satire, or parody. So, consider everything I say with caution and evaluate everything, they're literally a pragmatic landmine, and potentially multiple layers thick. --Eira ^yay! The Goat be praised. 18:56, 9 January 2008 (EST)