User talk:Eira
The email from Puellanivis (me)[edit]
This email exchange has been moved to User talk:Eira/The Letter.
Capitalization[edit]
See User Talk:Eira/Capitalization.
MCWiki[edit]
Is this you, or an impostor? -- Nx / talk 10:03, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- "I like people to decide for themselves; it is more fun that way." –the creator of Leeroy Jenkins
- And besides, who fucking cares about me? I'm no longer in any position of trust at this wiki. I've already been driven off of the Board by slanderous accusations. At least me leaving allowed someone to get in, who has some actual fucking business sense and the Board is getting steered in the right direction for once. (Massively behind on paperwork? Good job Board of Directors!) --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 10:22, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- Ok. I'll assume it is you then. -- Nx / talk 10:24, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- If it is you, it is deeply disturbing that those who call themselved the champions of liberty would engage in even more outrageously heavy-handed forms of the very authoritarian practices that they profess to oppose. Apparently, they will not even stop at wrongfully accusing upstanding citizens of crimes they did not commit. Have you no shame? Röstigraben (talk) 10:26, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, was MCWiki established under the same ruleset as RationalWiki, or did I miss something? It's kind of funny that people cannot understand that people can hold two varying positions for two varying concepts. I certainly am not for mobocratic rule of the United States, or my state, or even my city. I am however for mobocratic rule of RW, because that's the tradition. MCWiki was founded on completely different rules, and I have no problem working within two different rulesets for two different "jurisdictions". Frankly, that you people are freaking out about this so much, is honestly hilarious.
- Also, accusing upstanding citizens of crimes they did not commit? Like Psygremlin accusing Human of breach of fiduciary duty? Ok, maybe not "upstanding citizen", but at least innocent of the charge levied. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 10:30, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, now I see what's going on here. I just found out that I'd been offered a leadership position in the revolutionary movement, shortly before you blocked me. It's obvious that you're jealous that our dear leader was beginning to see the wisdom of my ways, and planned to make me his right-hand man. So you eliminated me before I could threaten your position in the organization. That was well played from a purely Machiavellian point of view, but mark my words - such devious scheming and infighting will only cause you to become the very monster that you seek to destroy. Beware! Röstigraben (talk) 10:36, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I blocked Andrew Schlafly because the user was masquerading as someone else. A public figure no less in our group. One may as well have created a user account "Adolf Hitler" on Wikipedia. It's obviously not the real person, and obviously someone just masquerading as that person. I blocked "Robert Stadler" because it was reasonably apparent that he was a sock of Ty, who has been trolling the board since the start. If "Robert Stadler" was actually you, then oops... don't make yourself look like an obvious sock of an obvious troll. Anyone making an account here that appeared to be obviously Marcus Cicero would get banned and reverted immediately, so don't act like it is some draconian measure that wouldn't happen here. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 10:42, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- This is outrageous. I cannot even edit my talk page over there, so I have no other choice than to appeal here. I demand that you immediately unblock me and my good friend Andrew, so that we may take up our positions on the revolutionary tribunal. Regarding the case of "Marcus Cicero", I assure you that I will look favorably on your statement on behalf of the prosecution when we review the block. This is indeed an act of treacherous identity theft that was undoubtedly committed to divide our budding movement. Do not fall into their trap, Eira. Röstigraben (talk) 10:55, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- You're fucking retarded. You would look favorably on "Marcus Cicero"'s case, but DEAR LORD!!! NO, we need to unblock "Andrew Schlafly". --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 11:20, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I would look favorably on your statement on behalf of the prosecution of "Marcus". Whatever, at least unblock me. Andrew can come back with his real first name and last initial. Röstigraben (talk) 11:30, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- You're fucking retarded. You would look favorably on "Marcus Cicero"'s case, but DEAR LORD!!! NO, we need to unblock "Andrew Schlafly". --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 11:20, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- This is outrageous. I cannot even edit my talk page over there, so I have no other choice than to appeal here. I demand that you immediately unblock me and my good friend Andrew, so that we may take up our positions on the revolutionary tribunal. Regarding the case of "Marcus Cicero", I assure you that I will look favorably on your statement on behalf of the prosecution when we review the block. This is indeed an act of treacherous identity theft that was undoubtedly committed to divide our budding movement. Do not fall into their trap, Eira. Röstigraben (talk) 10:55, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I blocked Andrew Schlafly because the user was masquerading as someone else. A public figure no less in our group. One may as well have created a user account "Adolf Hitler" on Wikipedia. It's obviously not the real person, and obviously someone just masquerading as that person. I blocked "Robert Stadler" because it was reasonably apparent that he was a sock of Ty, who has been trolling the board since the start. If "Robert Stadler" was actually you, then oops... don't make yourself look like an obvious sock of an obvious troll. Anyone making an account here that appeared to be obviously Marcus Cicero would get banned and reverted immediately, so don't act like it is some draconian measure that wouldn't happen here. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 10:42, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, now I see what's going on here. I just found out that I'd been offered a leadership position in the revolutionary movement, shortly before you blocked me. It's obvious that you're jealous that our dear leader was beginning to see the wisdom of my ways, and planned to make me his right-hand man. So you eliminated me before I could threaten your position in the organization. That was well played from a purely Machiavellian point of view, but mark my words - such devious scheming and infighting will only cause you to become the very monster that you seek to destroy. Beware! Röstigraben (talk) 10:36, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- If it is you, it is deeply disturbing that those who call themselved the champions of liberty would engage in even more outrageously heavy-handed forms of the very authoritarian practices that they profess to oppose. Apparently, they will not even stop at wrongfully accusing upstanding citizens of crimes they did not commit. Have you no shame? Röstigraben (talk) 10:26, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- Ok. I'll assume it is you then. -- Nx / talk 10:24, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
What is really sad, is that you all steamrolled MC out of this wiki without following your own due process that you expected. MCwiki was established and he was outright and forthcoming: "I will block people for XY", and equated it with "summary execution". At least MC is working within his own rules on his own wiki... here? Pff... we just make shit up and railroad people. It's honestly to the point where people are not allowed to talk shit anymore... It's sad. Whatever happened to the edgy RW that was all in-your-face? I want that RW back, and that's where the alignment of my agreement with MC lies. We had a garden of eden here, and some people just ran in, upset that things weren't being directed, and "civilized"... and just like the Europeans raping American cultures that were getting along reasonably fine before them, they ran roughshod over the existing culture, supplanting their own "civilization". --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 10:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- Getting serious for a second, what's really sad is that you and Human allow yourself to be used as a tool for trolling. Sorry that there's no kinder way to put it. You swallowed Marcus' story about impeding fascism on RW hook, line and sinker, and you totally isolated yourself from the rest of the community as a result. Do you really think that all these people with whom you've interacted and mostly gotten along well over the years have suddenly turned into authoritarians who are determined to crush every last glimmer of fun and individualism here?
- I admit that I'm also less than happy with what RW has become recently, but I don't think that has anything to do with authoritarian structures (whatever new structures have been instituted, like moderators, are already pretty much defunct anyway). It's just that there's a group of new editors, namely Maratrean, Brxbrx and UHM, who are either determined to do their utmost to turn this place into shit or are too stupid to see what effect they're having on it. Shunning them hasn't made them go away, and they're apparently happy with spending their time here by picking fights left and right. Still, the fact that none of them has suffered more "draconian" measures than a temporary revoke of sysop rights should show you that MC was an absolutely solitary case. So yeah, I really don't see why you waste your time and abilities on trolling this place via MCW. You used to be a top notch contributor here, like several others who have recently left in disgust or quietly disappeared. Maybe the general change in RW's atmoshere over the last year is just bringing out the worst in people, but casting your lot with MC is seriously not the right way to turn the ship around again. Röstigraben (talk) 11:30, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- So, your solution is to troll the troll on his own wiki? That's honestly fucking lame. Also, the notion that I've swallowed MC's diatribe hook line and sinker is pretty fucking offensive that you think that I'm that stupid. Perhaps I have my own opinions about what's going on here, and I was upset before MC uttered a word about it. Of course, this wikis solution is to just ban him foreverz and then revert and ban any edit that looks like it comes from MC... I mean, seriously, WHO FUCKING THINKS ANY OF THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO?
If you have complaints about MCWiki, email the admins on that site, stop trolling up RW with your shit. --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 11:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I'm trolling RW? Sure, whatever. I tried talking to you. If you really want to carry on with this unhinged BS, go ahead. Röstigraben (talk) 12:03, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
What's up sister?[edit]
What's shakin'? Long time no see. 04:50, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- Not much, got a job at Google, which is nice. I tried to contact you through skype a few times, but no response? --Eira OMTG! The Goat be Praised. 17:26, 10 January 2014 (UTC)