Essay talk:Argumentation - An Introduction
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Holy shit you’re tiring. Maybe engage in your coop case first because you’re facing a ban. Acei9 10:11, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Cute essay. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 18:21, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ace, give it a rest. He's trying to do something constructive. If he has decided it is better not to engage with the coop case that's his call. SolPyre (talk) 18:54, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't agree. This essay, which is more about FairDinkum than about any meaningful improvement for the community, is an unsubstantiated criticism of RationalWiki based on his limited time here. It aims to lecture people that have "piled on" and wronged FairDinkum to improve themselves rather offering fair criticism. It reads as condescending to more experienced users, and due to unpleasant experiences this user has caused, I don't see anyone willing to collaborate. Even without the series of arguments that led to this essay, the essay itself is poorly written, favoring verbiage over clarity, so it fails to concisely make a point. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 19:14, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Fair. But put it this way, this essay is more constructive than another round of pointless hostilities between the combatants. Better to write a verbose essay about argumentation (even if it is full of RW criticism, isn't concise, and not motivated by the noblest of feelings). I don't think the community handled this FairDinkum vs et al. very well - I think FairDinkum had some value to offer the wiki if we could have found a way to get everybody to shut up and let the heat blow over. idk -SolPyre (talk) 20:05, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't agree. This essay, which is more about FairDinkum than about any meaningful improvement for the community, is an unsubstantiated criticism of RationalWiki based on his limited time here. It aims to lecture people that have "piled on" and wronged FairDinkum to improve themselves rather offering fair criticism. It reads as condescending to more experienced users, and due to unpleasant experiences this user has caused, I don't see anyone willing to collaborate. Even without the series of arguments that led to this essay, the essay itself is poorly written, favoring verbiage over clarity, so it fails to concisely make a point. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 19:14, 12 March 2023 (UTC)