Essay talk:Arguments against a BENEVOLENT god

Answering "Both God and Evil Can't Exist" before you've even written it

It's basic Christian doctrine that God gave us free will, which includes the freedom to do evil. If you take away the capacity for evil, you take away free will, which is not benevolent. This is the problem of evil, basically, and the Catholic Church has about 1500 years worth of books about it. (incidentally I'm not a Christian, this is just what Christians say) Avida Dollars^{her again} 20:28, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

The so-called solutions to the problem of evil are called "theodicy". The lamest ones are "evil is the absence of god" which is really just claiming non-omnipotence and as Avida mentioned "free will" which has the giant-ass problem of all the non-human-caused evil. ikanreed ^{🐐Bleat at me} 21:53, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

The Problem of Evil is one of the few issues with theism that religious apologists see as a legitimate criticism of religion, and that explains why they have spent so much time grappling with this issue. Keep in mind that the Problem of Evil only affects omnibenevolent, all-powerful deities such as the God of Abraham, divinities such as Zeus or Thor are not affected by this issue.--Don Juan (talk) 22:01, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Ok, Avida Dollars thanks for that. I was gonna counter the free will argument with why he gave us the free will to take away other's free will and, if he knows what we are going to do is it free will. You know, hard determinism.Doublethink (talk) 03:15, 28 November 2018 (UTC)