RationalWiki talk:BoN

I have created this page as some IP users are confused when we call them "BoN". If we link to this page they should understand.--Bob^{Not Jim} 18:48, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

As long as we don't link to Bön we're all right. Totnesmartin 19:04, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Way ahead of ya! ^bomination 19:57, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Super Bon Bon

Some kind of verb Some kind of moving thing Something unseen Some hand is motioning To rise, to rise, to rise Too fight that you must cut clean You got to take the elevator to the mezzanine Chump change, and it's on, super bon bon Super bon bon, super bon bon Super bon bon, super Super bon bon, super Super bon bon, super Super bon bon bon bon

-Soul Coughing

BoN pronouns

In order to not make assumptions - what would a RW equivalent to [1] be and should there be two of them - 'opaque use name' and BoN? 'It' and 'them' sound inappropriate 82.44.143.26 (talk) 14:35, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Regardless of what's currently popular when discussing gender identity, "they" is a commonly accepted and totally valid third person genderless pronoun. Clunky neologisms should be added to the page if they somehow make the page more clear, but I suspect "hen" isn't going to do so, due to low usage rates. ikanreed ^{You probably didn't deserve that} 14:39, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

'Hen' was mentioned in the last series of The Bridge 'One' (possessive 'Once') might be appropriate for BoNs. A suggestion not a complaint, seeing someone use 'he' of a BoN. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 14:47, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Swede here. The term "hen" wasn't ever really meant to be extendable into English whatsoever. In English, the literal word "hen" is already the well-established term for an avian. And further, in Swedish, the invention of "hen" is made simple (practical, even) by the fact that the phonetics for the middle letter in "han", "hon" and "hen" is interchangeable between the three, without the switch altering the pace of the word at all. This is also different from in English, as the phonetics to the word "hone" (as in, to hone a skill) and "hen" (as in, the chicken thingy) is markedly different from each other, while in Swedish "hon" och "hen" are both pronunciated like the latter. Further, "hen" does not form a grammatical middle ground between the words "him" and "her", as they end on a different letter. So I don't think that this particular language convention could or should be moved into English without the invention of a new term entirely. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 15:29, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

I did say 'equivalent of' :) - and the WP page explains 'what and why.'

There is some need for 'anonymous-person-pronouns' other than it/them whether for ambiguous names, or BoNs. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 15:46, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

What of the many, many proposed pronouns should we use? Should we even use them at all, they didn't enter usage beyond some small circles on the net?--The (((Kigel))) (talk) (mail) 16:05, 22 August 2016 (UTC) 16:05, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

@BoN I know; I wasn't contesting the WP link, if that's what you thought. I was just adding to the overall explanation of the term with a novel comment expanding on the differences of pronounciation between Swedish and English. That's all. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:19, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

You're swedish? I had no idea. ikanreed ^{You probably didn't deserve that} 18:00, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

I am? Huh — the things you learn at this site! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 18:47, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Not forgetting [2] (and possibly mentioning 'the seventh (performing) seal').

Any particular consensus for 'pronouns other than they or it for internet names of no obvious gender'? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 16:34, 23 August 2016 (UTC)