Talk:Agnosticism

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"I'll get you my pretty, and your little god too!"[edit]

"Long before quantum mechanics, the German philosopher, Husserl, said that "All perception is gamble."

Every type of bigotry, every type of racism, sexism, prejudice, every dogmatic ideology that allows people to kill other people with a clear conscience, every stupid cult, every superstition, written religion, every kind of ignorance in the world, all results from not realising that our perceptions are gambles.

We believe what we see and then we believe our interpretation of it, we don't even know we are making an interpretation most of the time. We think that THIS is reality. In philosophy that is called Naive Realism. "What I perceive is reality." Philosophers have refuted naive realism every century for the last 2500 years starting with Buddha & Plato, and yet most people act on the basis of Naive Realism.

Now the argument is, 'maybe my perceptions are inaccurate but somewhere there is accuracy. The scientists have it with their instruments...that's how we find out whats really real.' But what relativity and quantum mechanics have demonstrated clearly is that what you find out with instruments is true relative only to the instrument you are using, and where that instrument is located in space time.

So since there is no vantage point from which 'real reality' can be seen, we are all looking from the point of our own reality tunnels. And when we begin to realise that we are all looking from the point of view of our own reality tunnels, we find it is much easier to understand where other people are coming from. Or, the ones who do not have the same reality tunnels as us do not seem ignorant or deliberately perverse or lying or hypnotized by some mad ideology. They just have a different reality tunnel, and every reality tunnel might tell us something interesting about our world... if we are willing to listen." -RAW — Unsigned, by: 24.238.135.170 / talk / contribs

A lame palaeontology joke[edit]

The agnostids were a group of trilobites that had a head and tail that look remarkably similar. Planaria Icon.png-DA RW.png-Talk RW.png 21:15, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

How agnostics see atheists[edit]

Just fishing for a few zealots. I think I may already have a bite. — Unsigned, by: Star Gazer / talk / contribs

Remember[edit]

Most believers will be agnostic towards some gods and atheist towards others.

What are the equivalent terms for belief in 'other entities' - 'ghoolies and ghosties...', Halloween beasties, fairies, angels and all the rest of them? Anna Livia (talk) 17:08, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Six Different Views[edit]

Agnostic Theist = The question is unanswerable. I believe in God.

Gnostic Theist = The question is answerable. I believe in God.

Agnostic Atheist (weak) = The question is unanswerable. I don't hold the belief that God exists.

Gnostic Atheist (weak) = The question is answerable, but I haven't yet been convinced of God's existence.

Agnostic Atheist (strong) = The question is unanswerable. I think God doesn't exist.

Gnostic Atheist (strong) = The question is answerable. I think God doesn't exist. — Unsigned, by: 65.19.224.215 / talk / contribs