Talk:Aubrey de Grey

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This definitely needs a mention of how far outside of mainstream gerontology de Grey is. Someone more familiar with this material should have a whack at it, though. See here, for instance: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1371037/?tool=pmcentrez Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 05:16, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

2nd law of thermodynamics - is this PZ being a Poe? Or am I missing something?

Seriously, are we really going to cite PZ Myers using the effin' second law of thermodynamics (2lot) as an argument against immortality? Don't get me wrong, I think immortality belongs in the "so implausible as to be practically impossible"-category, but am I totally off the rockers to point out that using the 2lot as an argument against immortality fails for the same reasons that it fails to be an argument against evolution? I.e. that living organisms are obviously not closed systems. ScepticWombat (talk) 09:44, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

^. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 13:04, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Further clarification from Myers would be great. --Vital Forces (talk) 18:14, 18 July 2021 (UTC)