Talk:Barry Goldwater

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"More liberal than today's conservatives". From what I understand from American political history, isn't Goldwater the posterboy for how the left/right scale is flawed? Even if I'm completely wrong about this point (I'm basing it entirely off of my, admittedly faulty, memory of a book I read... 2+ years ago), an economic conservative with progressive views about gay rights and abortions isn't more liberal than today's conservatives, he's more libertarian than today's conservatives. JazzMan 01:10, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

I agree, in general, but I would also add "more conservative than modern 'conservatives'", who mostly want to interfere in personal choices. Does the article say what you quoted? Whut bastid put that in there? ħumanUser talk:Human 01:22, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
Yes, yes, also true. And yes, it does say what I quoted. Today's lesson was brought to you by the letter S. JazzMan 01:25, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
So should we change it to "more libertarian" instead of "more liberal"? Does that make more sense, or does it subvert the point? ħumanUser talk:Human 01:29, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
"More libertarian" is more accurate, but then it also makes the statement irrelevant, at least without a much broader discussion. I never really had a good grasp on what is mission or not, so you decide what to do :) If it weren't hidden away in a box somewhere I'd get out the book I vaguely referred to earlier. It actualy does have an interesting (and likely missiony) discussion about how Goldwater changed the way we think about left/right politics, because of his social views. JazzMan 01:35, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
I'd rather see a "better" article than a more "missiony" one. What book? ħumanUser talk:Human 01:42, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
Culture War, by Morris P. Fiorina. It's a pretty good read. JazzMan 02:20, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
It indeed looks very interesting. I added it to my wish list so I don't forget about it... thanks! ħumanUser talk:Human 21:18, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

We're being too easy on him[edit]

Whether it was his own beliefs or the misguided interpretations of his fans, Goldwater ensured the death of the Rockefeller Republicans and the implementation of the Southern strategy. Osaka Sun (talk) 02:11, 27 June 2013 (UTC)