Talk:Collectivism

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Christianity, radical feminism[edit]

  • Only some Christian sects are collectivistic... Correction: most Christian sects are collectivistic; collective duties form the central thrust. In liberal Christianity, this takes the form of one's obligations to one's "neighbors;" in fundamentalist Christianity, the clan mentality and "holy military service of Christ" type stuff.
  • ..."radical feminism" is a snarl word. To some people, who think the adjective is redundant, it is; to actual radical feminists, it is a philosophy that rejects any view of gender-relations as a facet of some other struggle, but rather the other way around. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 05:40, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Objectivism[edit]

How is objectivism collectivism when it is its polar opposite? Talsley (talk) 15:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Sign0019.gif This guy has a point for once. WẽãšẽĩõĩďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 16:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
I am not a guy nor am I stupid. But it is nice to finally meet another rational, mature, and reasonable person.Talsley (talk) 16:05, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Ah, yes, that very individualistic philosophy that required its votaries to agree with Ayn Rand in all particulars. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 00:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

This edit[edit]

Try to have LESS weasel wordings in it. Thanks. C®ackeЯ 19:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC) C®ackeЯ

Obscurity[edit]

What is the "Ayn Rand Collective", really? Would someone care to clarify? 95.14.200.31 (talk) 20:18, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

The collective of Ayn Rand. Duh. Atheoi (talk) 03:04, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Phony individualism[edit]

Can someone hold my hand and explain this section to me and why it's in the article? It doesn't make any sense to me. Hmmph (talk) 03:35, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

That makes two of us, my sweet babuska. I've removed it. Faced with mysteries dark and vast/statements just seem vain at last. 03:52, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
I think it was trying (and failing) to comment on the pseudo-individualism of capitalist culture in which you can "express" your "individuality" by, say, choosing between Mac or Windows. You are what you buy! Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 04:13, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

What's wrong with collectivism?[edit]

I feel like this article portrays collectivism in a somewhat negative light, mostly with the table of comparisons and the quotes by fascists. I think it would be more proper to analyze it as a property of certain ideologies, whether those ideologies themselves are harmful (nazism) or not (secular humanism). — Unsigned, by: 209.108.211.122 / talk / contribs

I can agree that it is cast in a negative light which seems to be its most common usage. However, the usage seems to have become so broad that in many cases, it's become kind of meaningless as a term. It's just a placeholder for "Things angry people don't like", as liberal and Socialist have kind of become. I would be interested in seeing your analysis if you feel this strongly since this is a resource you can add to and no one is going to take up causes you feel strongly about better than you. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 17:19, 1 February 2016 (UTC)