revealing that he had taken his former wife, actress Jeri Ryan, to various sex clubs (including, in at least one case, a bondage club) and tried to have her perform sex acts on him out in the open.
Do I understand correctly he was suspended from the election after details of a sex life most of us either have xor would rather have? If sex clubs, open air sex and bondage clubs are a no go for politicians, I'd wager almost no one is eligible for office.220.127.116.11 (talk) 07:54, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- My understanding was that the problem was not the sex, but the way he treated her was essentially harassment. Wehpudicabok [話] [変] 08:24, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
That list of examples is blatant Texas sharpshooter fallacy: whenever 20-30% do something you don't like, draw a target around it and declare it evidence. I've axed the list as basically stupid. I'll add back refs piecemeal. The Rob Ford stuff did actually make public discourse - David Gerard (talk) 16:44, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Have added back the two of those many "citations" that even mention the words "crazification factor" - David Gerard (talk) 16:51, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Woah there, you went a bit overboard. Even though this factor is more fun than serious analysis, there's a point to be made here about the resiliency of a group's worldview (especially a political base or religious doctrine) in the face of objective, incontrovertible facts. If you're living in a modern society where a full quarter of the population doesn't understand the most simple and uncontroversial of scientific tenets and will steadfastly support a politician even as he faces certain removal of office and criminal conviction, I'd argue that's more than just shoehorning. (For the examples of Japanese comfort women and Stalinism, there's research attempting to explain why a vocal minority persists in holding these attitudes — for the latter, it's the lack of a de-Stalinization process in Russia like Germany had). Osaka Sun (talk) 06:40, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- There is a point to be made here, but I'm pretty sure this didn't make it - the examples really are "whoa, 20-30% of people said something I think is stupid? CRAZIFICATION FACTOR!!" Even given how clearly insane supporting Rob Ford was. I did go through all those cites. If we can make the point you set out there and back it up, that'd be excellent - David Gerard (talk) 09:29, 1 December 2014 (UTC)