Talk:Dissociative identity disorder

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FFS: it's a hysterical conversion disorder and there have been a number of cases. It is *NOT* a psychosis. Spica the Hiver If you tolerate this, then your children will be next... 18:09, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

That's why we have you here, Spica :) <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 18:15, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
I nursed a case of this in a private psych hospital at the start of my career. Weird, man, just loads of weird shit, all the time.... Going back to watching SAC:GITS:2nd Gig now :) Spica the Hiver If you tolerate this, then your children will be next... 18:21, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

Can we move this stuff to Dissociative identity disorder? — Haamer (talk) 15:02, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. — Haamer (talk) 18:06, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

MPD is FBS.[edit]

I'm pretty sure it's just people putting on voices or otherwise being batshit insane and using MPD as an excuse. IDD is different to MPD, so it's unfortunate MPD forwards here. MPD is fucking woo, from what I've read, and has been time and time again disproven, what little evidence it exists is whimsical and by no means empirical or in any reputable journal.

I am honestly disappointed as a long time reader of this wiki to see claims it's real.— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

Hi, as someone whose significant other suffers from DID (MPD and DID were formerly separate definitions that varied, basically, only by what the original disorder trigger conditions were and what psychology thought the mind was doing during that event), I'm pretty sure you're wrong. And making it into an attention-whore situation or shaming the victim is really bad form, BoN. My sweetie's others (as we nickname the other living personalities) are distinct identities have their own personalities, likes, dislikes, and demeanors. I'm disappointed in you being a dick, BoN. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 20:26, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I spent five years working in inpatient psych, and only met three patients who claimed to have DID and were actually diagnosed with it. (Several others claimed it but after evaluation were not diagnosed, for whatever that's worth.) Of those three, the first one I had my doubts about, but her diagnosing psychiatrist was, like me, a strong DID sceptic and still diagnosed her, which is pretty persuasive stuff. Once you've actually seen someone change alters —
Well, put it this way: I was, as you are, a firm disbeliever in DID before I met a woman I'll call Helga. Her "main" alter spoke Russian, not natively but more fluently than I did, and we conversed in that language. She changed to a different alter that could not speak or understand Russian beyond a few words that anyone might pick up along the way from media, like "spasibo" and "do svidaniya". Repeated "tricks" confirmed that Russian had become an alien language to her. Also, her English-speaking alter was entirely left-handed and the other was entirely right-handed. There was much more to it, but space forbids. This is empirical evidence. Anecdotal, but still empirical. Empirical evidence is not easy to handwave away, and I realised that my attempts to do so in her case were requiring more and more contrived and implausible explanations. So I confessed to myself that I'd been acting like a denialist rather than a sceptic, and I let Occam's Razor fall.
What does my experience lead me to conclude? (1) DID does in fact exist. (2) DID is quite rare. (3) Yes, some people do "fake" it, or else convince themselves that they have it, which isn't quite the same thing. (4) People who are faking it have very definite tells and are quite easy to pick up on. DID is like seizures — it's a popular target for malingerers who overestimate their skill, but conning an experienced observer who doesn't want to be conned, for any meaningful length of time, is essentially impossible. (Self-deluded "DID" has different and subtler tells, but is still easily spotted.) — Unsigned, by: / talk
Thanks for your completely unfounded, sourceless anecdote, Mr. Didn't Leave His Name. Unfortunately, basically everything contradicts basic fundamentals of psychiatry and neurology. Also, to the previous poster, just because you have a significant other who is a crazy person pretending to have several personalities to feel special doesn't give you either authority or evidence, the same way that a person saying they are Napoleon isn't gonna be correct because "hey, they know themselves better than anyone else." Crazy people do and say crazy things. And as a significant other of someone like that, you aren't more qualified to talk about this topic - you are less qualified, because you have a heavily weighted interest in having your significant other suffer from an actual condition rather than just being an attention whore. Nara (talk) 15:51, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
@Nara Congrats on replying to a post from three years ago, and then ridiculing someone's post from five years ago. I'm sure your opinion went back through time and stopped them cold, so that now this entire thread is a time paradox. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:59, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
@Nara FYI: My former spouse was diagnosed with MPD. I don't pretend to be an expert in such matters, but I do know that something previously very well hidden away emerged from within her and within a relatively short period of time the woman I had loved and lived with for many years apparently ceased to exist. Her doctors informed me of this, and one of them told me, "The woman you met, dated, and married back then isn't there anymore, may never really have been more than a sort of compromise, and the chances of her ever coming back are slim to none. You should get out while you can." I chose to disregard his advice. By the time I realised that he'd been right and got the hell out of Dodge, I was a complete wreck. It took me about 5 years--including a couple of years of counselling--to recover. I'm not interested in sharing any more of that part of my past with you, but for an idea of something similar to what I suspect I was up against, I suggest you read When Rabbit Howls. Zontar (talk) 02:06, 6 February 2019 (UTC)