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Stef McGraw

There should be some mention, at the very least, of Stef McGraw who is referred to in the second video. A lot of those publicly attacking Watson, in response to rebuttals that the original video contained nothing objectionable, shifted to claiming that what they were really mad about is her "attacks" on McGraw and that "calling someone out" without actually getting her on stage to respond is a thing that is not done in professional circles. This is despite the fact that it's actually pretty common and McGraw herself didn't respond with similar vitriol, in fact remaining on good terms with Watson and the Skepchick crew. Apparently she even went so far as to help Watson out with a prank at one conference, but I can't seem to find the blog posts about it through all the chaff. Maybe someone else remembers this? --Kels (talk) 15:21, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Anything that makes this a good, sensible writeup would be good IMO. (Are there any such beasts?) - David Gerard (talk) 22:15, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

A list of the abusive responses

Watson notes some here and here. Anyone got time to put these (and any others) into list form for the article? - David Gerard (talk) 19:30, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Here are a few of the first dozen "abusive" messages. One can only hope Watson will recover.

1)All I can say is please try to keep up the good work. It is appreciated. Don’t let the bastards grind you down.

2) Congratulations on your blossoming misanthropy!

3)I think I probably speak for most of rational people when I say: Don’t let them win. Please? I’ll make you cupcakes....

wordoftodd

4)If Felicia can’t get cupcakes to you, I will be happy to make some for you. Do you like blueberry cupcakes? Just remember there are those of us who appreciate you and admire you – and absofuckinlutely can’t believe the shitstorm that arose from a simple comment on behavior.

5)I am here, on this website, because I read about what happened at the conference, your response, and the backlash – and that introduced me to your writing. I am finding my skeptical voice because I have begun to read what you put out for us. I am stronger with my new found voice. I am proof that the haters aren’t winning. Thank you Rebecca.

6) I should also add that the whole Elevatorgate issue is what finally pushed me to become a feminist. I started out on the other side of the issue, and as I read through the comments, it occurred to me that something wasn’t quite right. I followed the links that other feminists supplied to some of the denser participants and as I read, found that a lot of it began to click. I’m hardly an expert on feminist topics now, but it took seeing how people reacted to the incident (telling you they hope you get raped? Really?) to really bring it home for me.

So basically, in short, fuck the haters.

7)I met you once at TAM 8, (tentacle felt vagina) and I want to say that you have been a huge inspiration to me. Your humor and fortitude have basically kept me in the skeptical movement when all hope seemed lost.

The kind of B.S. you (and other female writers) receive for the egregious act of writing/speaking have definitely kept me from taking up a more active role on the internet. It just seems so disparaging. I am in awe that you continue to do it, and I don’t want you to stop. But in the end, you need to do what’s right for you.

Oh the humanity!Ariel31459 (talk) 22:00, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Nice cherry picking there. good thing everybody recognized the pointlessness of your commentary. ^{— Unsigned, by: 121.98.228.243 / talk}