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Um, do we need artices on everything alties push a cure for? Тyrannis 22:39, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see why not. Also, as (a) a symptom cluster, not a disease with a known cause (b) mostly affecting women, it causes a lot of arse-elbow dysphoria in the medical profession. My ex-wife has it so I've gotten to see it up close. (This means I should probably add moar to the article.) tl;dr it's entirely on-mission - David Gerard (talk) 08:49, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Someone I follow on DA has it. Puts her in hospital every few months, though I've never heard her talk about any altie treatments to it I'll keep an eye out to see what crops up.
moral 10:43, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Speaking of obscure conditions with unclear etiology and no good treatment, we also need an article on Chronic fatigue syndrome. And the XMRV fiasco, for extra sprinkles of scientific misconduct.--ZooGuard (talk) 12:28, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- The main problem is not alties (though they don't help ... or the fuckwit who kept trying to list prayer as a treatment for fibro in the Wikipedia article several years ago) but blaming the patient, as if everything they don't know how to fix is imaginary. This isn't Morgellons - David Gerard (talk) 14:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- This is especially relevant because the blame-the-patient attitude for difficult-to-diagnose ailments is what pushes a lot of people to start trying alternative medicine. I know that this is, explicitly, the reason why my in-laws became hardcore alties. It was because people were clearly having health problems and every time a tentative diagnosis fell through, doctors acted like it must be imaginary. Omar (gibber) 14:41, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- And it's not merely that science doesn't know everything - but that doctoring is tech support, not science, and many doctors have no frickin' idea what constitutes science or critical thinking. Gah - David Gerard (talk) 16:48, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- It's one of those conditions like "autism" that seems to draw in the quacks, because it really is not well understood, not well defined (? I'm not sure that's the medical term) as to who has it and who does not. It's almost more a collection of symptoms than a single disease, and I don't think they even know enough to have a test for "it" since the "it" is so vague. So yeah, it probably should be on mission. Besides, women who use birth control, and will soon have to tell their doctors WHY they are using it, will rely on this as a perfect "illness" that needs to be "treated" with birth control. ;-)
Godot 18:38, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- @Zoo - oh, i think your word "etiology" is what I was looking for. thanks - new words rock! @ David, I'm not sure if this is real, or just my perception, but I've found that it's often hard to convince doctors that there is something wrong "down there". I know what my cramps feel like. some month, they are worse. I complain to the medical profession and they say (seriously) "that's just your imagination" or "everyone has variety in their cramps each month". Sometimes I feel (again, this is likely as much perception as reality) as if they either think "tough shit, that is what you get for being a woman", or think "it's only cramps for heaven's sake, get over it". — Unsigned, by: WaitingforGodot / talk / contribs (signed by bot) 18:41, 01 May 2012 (UTC)
- It's one of those conditions like "autism" that seems to draw in the quacks, because it really is not well understood, not well defined (? I'm not sure that's the medical term) as to who has it and who does not. It's almost more a collection of symptoms than a single disease, and I don't think they even know enough to have a test for "it" since the "it" is so vague. So yeah, it probably should be on mission. Besides, women who use birth control, and will soon have to tell their doctors WHY they are using it, will rely on this as a perfect "illness" that needs to be "treated" with birth control. ;-)
- And it's not merely that science doesn't know everything - but that doctoring is tech support, not science, and many doctors have no frickin' idea what constitutes science or critical thinking. Gah - David Gerard (talk) 16:48, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- This is especially relevant because the blame-the-patient attitude for difficult-to-diagnose ailments is what pushes a lot of people to start trying alternative medicine. I know that this is, explicitly, the reason why my in-laws became hardcore alties. It was because people were clearly having health problems and every time a tentative diagnosis fell through, doctors acted like it must be imaginary. Omar (gibber) 14:41, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Someone I follow on DA has it. Puts her in hospital every few months, though I've never heard her talk about any altie treatments to it I'll keep an eye out to see what crops up.
