Talk:Identity politics/Archive1

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Edited in the spirit of contextualizing the emergence of modern "left" identity politics in America and clarifying the uneasy, ambivalent relationship between the identity politics based New Left and the Marxist Left. But history has spoken. Marxism has virtually disappeared from the American political landscape and racial/gender identity politics has become influential in the mainstream discourse (although its true level of support among the American public is open to question).^{— Unsigned, by: 75.111.20.66 / talk / contribs} 23:02, 29 May 2014‎ (UTC)

Proposed improvements

Just two suggestions: Could we potentially make the section 'Social Constructivism' a page in it's own right? I think it requires more exposition than what it's limited amount gives, and what it gives is few different perspectives crammed together (Like Marxism and Deconstruction Theorists) The second suggestion is tweaking the conclusion as it doesn't read as if it follows from the text that it's just a 'far left/right' problem, and also encompassing the 'Far Left' Marxist critique of it. In the UK we tend to criticize Left Unity as the Identity Politics of Marxists. The Article is good for historical analysis (Some points could do with more citations such as the 'gay is the new black' paragraph) and I think we're onto a winner with it. R.Wulfe (talk) 13:37, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I say go for it! ·Femilisk³ 07:00, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Restored parts of the BON's material

At least some of it was relatively on-topic and seemed well-informed. It was tendentious; then again we do tendentious. I've restored a bit of it and added basic references. There may be more worth saving. - Smerdis of Tlön, ^{A ⇒ ¬A.} 04:54, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't know how to feel about this

See reference 10 here: http://www.gurtong.net/ECM/Editorial/tabid/124/ctl/ArticleView/mid/519/articleId/16229/The-Principle-of-Tribocracy-Part-2.aspx --ZooGuard (talk) 09:09, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

"If South Sudanese people can devise and institutionalize an inclusive system of governance, which, in word and practice, could be seen as fair, just and equitable for all the ethnic groups of South Sudan, then the fight against tribalism will be won and South Sudan will avoid the pitfalls of her fellow post-colonial African countries by becoming a successful, new, prosperous nation because a political system where representatives of a particular ethnic group hold a number of government posts proportionate to the percentage of the total population that the particular ethnic group represents will promote and preserve peace and harmony among all the ethnic group of that nation." Ah yes, Confessionalism. Why can't we all be more like Lebanon? You know, he's not entirely wrong, but when confronted with a very "tribal" society Federalism would probably work better than just pure Confessionalism. Alsto003 (talk) 18:40, 9 September 2015 (UTC) Alex

Identity politics isn’t just a tool of the left. The right has used it again and again

The above headline was borrowed from the article I wish to recommend — "The battle over identity politics, explained". A worthwhile read. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:33, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

I don't disagree. The politics of Confederate flags and Ten Commandment plaques is the same kind of territorial pissing. It's mostly a matter of history; leftists coined the phrase. - Smerdis of Tlön, ^{LOAD "*", 8, 1.} 04:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)