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Deleted CP section[edit]

Motörhead[edit]

Is the song "Motorhead", penned by Lemmy Kilmister and originally recorded by Hawkwind related in anyway to this "speed", or was it heroin + cocaine?

I would guess this stuff--speedballs (heroin and coke) seem less likely to be about the staying up for days on end vibe of that song. JubalHarshaw (talk) 02:08, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
The word "Motorhead" is an old slang term for a habitual amphetamine (speed) abuser. Lemmy, as we all know, has had a very long and loving relationship with speed, making the name he picked for his band nothing less than perfect. In fact, if I remember rightly, his love of crank was one of the things that got him booted out of Hawkwind in the first place. --Stickie 86.31.166.175 (talk) 06:41, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Don't follow this detailed procedure, whatever you do[edit]

Strangely enough, Conservapedia's article on methamphetamine contained, for several months, a carefully described procedure for making your own batch.

The recipe was included when the article was createdimg on 2 April, 2007, and remained in place despite the article being edited subsequently by respected editors. It was only after the details were discussed at RationalWiki http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Methamphetamine&oldid=109738 that the controversial content was removedimg on 14 January, 2008.

It should be noted that the homskollar grasp of chemisthree may not be entirely trusworthy, if you don't want to blow yourself up while performing grossly illegal experiments, and/or poison yourself with the resulting alleged drug.

While I'm all for generally de-CPifying the mainspace, this recipe is really a notable faux pas that I think should be included. ħumanUser talk:Human 04:47, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
It was added by a vandal and subsequently two admins added categories (gasp!) to the page before it was removed... is this really that interesting? It wouldn't even make a good WIGO. If you think it's that important as a commentary on CP then maybe it can go on some page in CP: space. I don't think it's worth mentioning on the meth page. --95.154.230.252 (talk) 18:20, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I tend to agree that the arguments for keeping that section are not all that convincing. I have removed it unless we get more feedback in favor of it. The Goonie Punk Can't sleep, clowns will eat me! 18:31, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
The procedure is on Wikipedia and is described fairly well (albeit with a bit of chemistry jargon) on Breaking Bad. Scarlet A.pnggnostic 18:26, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
The beauty of meth is that even the addicts can make their own with a little initiative! My preferred production activity was always growing mushrooms though. Tmtoulouse (talk) 19:39, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
I have a lovely San Pedro cactus. Aceword up 19:44, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Well, so far we have Weeds (pot) and Breaking Bad (meth), so I'm sure a hard up neuroscience postgrad and part-time rationalist webmaster farming shrooms is a niche that isn't yet covered. Scarlet A.pnggnostic 19:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Man do I have some stories about San Pedro cactus and fateful trip to British Columbia. As for mushrooms I used to be really good at it. I had built up a small greenhouse in the back yard of my then girlfriends house. Fully automated temperature and humidity control which is actually impressive considering the mushrooms need 74-90 percent humidity and I was living in a place with 5 percent ambient humidity. Was producing fruiting bodies the size of a human arm. Alas and alack as with all things I have ever done in my life I failed to really translate that into any monetary gain. Selling to friends for a few hundred a pound just didn't bring me any riches.
Unrelated, I started watching some Breaking Bad recently but its horribly disorienting because its shot in Albuquerque but the map of the city that the show uses differs significantly from my mental map. So one min they are in old town and the next they are in the north east heights and then some how in santa fe. Tmtoulouse (talk) 19:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
TV, movies, whenever they are supposedly taking place in a place you know, that is almost always the sad reality. Mapagnesis, I call it, for no good reason. Emerald (talk) 04:44, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Heh, and do I have some stories about mushrooms and a very frightened kebab store owner. Aceword up 19:56, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I am missing the nuance here. While methamphetamine is a damaging drug when abused -and in a horrible way-, it is also available as prescription medicine under the name Desoxyn. Indications are (severe) ADHD and Obesity. And also narcolepsy. Thereby several armies used them as go pills, although Modafinil is replacing that use. In a medical setting the usage doesn't lead to addiction. (Well usually it doesn't).

But it is not often prescribed, because methamphetamine is neurotoxic, it damages dopamine neurons and serotonin neurons. It heightens the chance of depression upon cessation and also the chance you develop Parkinsons. 178.85.6.149 (talk) 20:09, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

safety...[edit]

...is a relative term. tina is dreadfully addictive. its dreadfully toxic. it will rot your brain and addle your mind. the inevitable binges will expose you to all manner of risk.

but you know what? lot less likely to cause your death. opiates are number 1 there. even a small amount of cocaine can cause your arteries to fatally spasm. and g kills folk all the time. for an otherwise healthy individual, tina is pretty safe in that respect.

its still poison, but just a little less likely a loved one will have to identify your corpse. they will need to eventually, but you will have to work harder at it, and it wont really be much of shock to your nearest and dearest,they would already have seen the shambling husk you will have become at your end. AMassiveGay (talk) 12:55, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

desoxyn[edit]

'dont snort it, slam it, or up your dosage' smoking it still good? AMassiveGay (talk) 10:10, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

ted haggard[edit]

removed some stuff about ted haggard. factually incorrect and offensive to boot. AMassiveGay (talk) 10:20, 26 April 2021 (UTC)