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Trump did not know of any collusion with Russia.

Evidence has shown that Trump has been Truthful when asked if he was aware of any meddling of the elections. The left attempting to claim, in light of the report, is dishonest _at best_ ^{— Unsigned, by: 2601:1C2:1902:6770:F1D0:499A:8BB3:C4D0 / talk}

How shall I put this?.. Your source is shit. No accreditation, no notability, nothing. His video comes down to, at best, opinion. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 13:04, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Admittedly you're right, but it's an incredibly informed. You could argue that Trump is just a good liar with body language and everything, but things he actually lied about says otherwise. 2601:1C2:1902:6770:F1D0:499A:8BB3:C4D0 (talk) 02:39, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Not really. Trump isn't a very good liar at all, it's just that the GOP base is very gullible. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 03:07, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Did you watch the video? Trump's body language absolutely does not indicate he's lying at all. He gets into all of it, and this man has other non-political videos on the same topic. I'm not claiming this is absolute proof, but body-language can be evidence of dishonesty or truthfulness.2601:1C2:1902:6770:89C1:730C:2EEA:1311 (talk) 10:53, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Did you read the report? ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 13:08, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Trump is truthful because overanalyzing body language, that's all I got from this. It's not much. He might as well be truthful, given how much of a seething petulant dumbass he is, but the results show the same: Trump is fine with foreign influence of elections, he admitted it himself (and he has obstructed justice like nine times when people were investigating soooo why should he plead ignorance, the twit?), and he's not doing really anything about it because he benefits from foreign influence. That's what matters, not whatever comes out of that orifice. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 00:00, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Not to mention that this perspective really only says something about Trump’s subjective beliefs about what he thinks is true, i.e. if he thinks that it’s legitimate to solicit dirt from foreign powers on an opponent or outright appeal to foreign powers to intervene, he wouldn’t consider this to be “foreign meddling” in an election (after all, in this interpretation, he would have been in charge and simply conducted “rough and tumble politics”) and thus not (in his own mind) be lying when he claims that he wasn’t aware of “foreign meddling”.

Note that Trump has already stated several times that he considers it completely legitimate to resort to such reliance on foreign powers to basically conduct political hit jobs (i.e. that this doesn’t constitute “foreign meddling”), so I don’t see why anyone would highlight an (over) analysis of his body language as some sort of clinching argument on the matter.

In the end, all any (over)analysis of Trump’s body language is only going to get you, is, at best, a notion of what Trump may subjectively think and believe to be true; and considering the whacked out things the man seems to seriously believe, any such subjective opinions of his are probably going to be, ahem, tangential to the facts of the matter... ScepticWombat (talk) 01:05, 27 September 2019 (UTC)