Welcome with bibbangs!

From RationalWiki
Jump to: navigation, search
This beautiful troll enjoys your attention you're giving it.
This user enjoys a troll-free talk page. Do not respond. Revert away, unless the comment is amusing.


This page is automatically archived by Archiver
Archives for this talk page: <1>

Please remember[edit]

to mark as patrolled the vandalism you undo.

ClickerClock (talk) 07:07, 5 October 2017 (UTC) If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{ping|ClickerClock}} to your message, and signing it.

Patrol and delete.[edit]

Please do so in that order. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 03:20, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Deleted pages should probably be automatically patrolled. Can we change that? --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 03:24, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Did you ever get an answer to that question? If not, @Kazitor might be able to help. I am also curious about this. Spriggina (beszélgetés) (közreműködés) @ 23:20, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Don't think so, but if I did, I would've forgotten. Silly me! --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 23:34, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

Tips on how to become a Inquisitor (Or sysop as you human geeks say)? K0rnsbl0dLet the galaxy burn!"Kill!Maim!Burn!" 00:41, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@K0rnsbl0d The bar isn't high. You just need to make consistent good edits and try to follow our community policy. If you believe you're overdue to be demoted to syops, you can refer to your mother's basement ;) --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 21:45, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
@LeftyGreenMario Sorry for late reply (since I was out killing some foes) but thanks. Maim!Kill!Burn! (talk) 18:21, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Edit Filter[edit]

So it turns out that Edit filter is a bot in that it runs by itself without human intervention. However, it doesn't have the bot user right, which is why it shows up on RC. RoninMacbeth (talk) 03:29, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Helpful to know. Thanks! --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 04:00, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

PragerU[edit]

Hello. Back when I posted about PragerU and their climate change denial, you had asked if there were transcripts of their videos. As it turns out, DeSmog Blog has a page on PragerU with a section listing their Climate Denial videos, grouped by author. Some of the author's DeSmog profiles have transcripts of the videos. 98.207.211.99 (talk) 19:20, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Didn't expect this page to be huge (wish they didn't embed a ton of videos)! I think it'll be a great resource to use for RationalWiki. Thanks so much. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 20:02, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Your comment on my talk page[edit]

1. What’s ‘plainly wrong’ with my justification? [and using ‘autistic’ pejoratively, for that matter]

2. Why is calling someone a nigga considered harassment? I didn’t meant to be offensive, edgy or funny. I used it like ‘dude’. As in ‘Dude, why did you do that?’ It’s just a figure of speech. Like when people say ‘mate’ with everything. The word doesn’t always denote friendship. And in the same way, ‘nigga’ doesn’t always denote hostility. Iamapartofman (talk) 16:51, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Autistic is unacceptable as any sort of pejorative. It's ableist, contributes to ignorance and marginalizing of autism, and it is thus on the same boat as using "gay" as pejorative.
I don't think your use of "nigga" is derogatory over blacks (unlike your being derogatory over autistic people), so I disagree over the reasoning of the ban, but it's generally inadvisable to use it, especially if you're new to a community. Also, it's not advisable to remove comments from talk pages, hence you got reverted in your talk page. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 20:16, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

It’s not about marginalizing autism or being ignorant of the condition. It’s just defining it differently. Definitions are descriptive and not prescriptive. [as RationalWiki basically agrees with] So, if enough people use the word autism the way I do; [and they do] it is to be considered a valid expansion of autism’s meaning. Besides, autistic as a pejorative predates the current definition. According to Wiktionary, it served to signal insanity. So really, this is nothing different from using idiot, moron, and retard pejoratively. And yeah, I probably shouldn’t have said nigga as people still tend to overreact when hearing the dreaded word. Iamapartofman (talk) 21:39, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

That's what you say, but most people use it to denigrate the condition. It's not just "differently" or just "description"; in today's context, it certainly means "stupid" or "socially inept" neither which are accurate descriptors of autistic people. It's the same vein of calling a hyperactive movie "ADHD" or people with ADHD meaning "lazy". Also, "retard" is also looked down as pejorative all while idiot and moron shed their loaded meaning. "Retard" not so much. Despite changing language, it's unacceptable to use "autistic" or "retard" despite their original meaning, just as how it's unacceptable to say "cunt" to anyone despite it being liberally used in the past and just referring to a woman's crotch. In the end, just like "nigga" and "cunt", it's inadvisable to use "autistic", so find other words to use so people don't get the wrong idea of you and also distract from your actual arguments. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 21:46, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

It really has nothing to do with denigrating the condition or hating autistic people. It's a means of insulting someone. Moron and idiot have completely lost their medical meaning, sure. But they too started out like ‘autist’. Give it some time, and it will become a benign, ordinary insult. And the stigma autistic people feel will probably evade away.

Also, while that is a rational word of advice, it seems rather pedantic that people would prefer to care about my language, as opposed to the content of my arguments. Would you rather have meaningful discourse, or an argument about how ‘unacceptable’ it is say a word? Iamapartofman (talk) 22:12, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Let me put it this way. If you came into a café or bar and started up a conversation with a complete stranger, would you use words like 'autistic' and 'nigga' in the context you did here while attempting meaningful discourse? I don't know where you're from or if it's acceptable for you to use such tone and language in your parts or with your peers, but in many other parts of the world that language may be viewed as aggressive, inappropriate or offensive. You simply cannot expect to come to this wiki and immediately use your local colloquialisms and vernacular and expect that those you potentially offend would look beyond your words and continue to talk to you. In some places using those words in a public space with complete strangers might get you a punch in the face. Here you use the term "meaningful discourse." You came into this wiki and immediately came off as a pretentious, right wing asshole. You certainly have a different definition of "meaningful discourse." If you use snarl words you're automatically going to put anyone else whose opinion differs with you on the offensive. That may be your style, and more power to you, but calling it "meaningful discourse" is just plain wrong. Regards, Cosmikdebris (talk) 23:19, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Nigga? No. No-one uses that word in my area. Not even black people. It just sounds awkward. Although I’d be alot more wary. Since certain people think it’s permissible to assault others over something as superficial as that.

I’d use autistic. There’s no tension surrounding the word here. At least not in my part of the country. [I live in the Netherlands]

Well yes, I guess we do disagree on what meaningful discourse means. Words can be offensive, but I’ll always consider the main topic to be most important. I can look past words. They’re just that. Words. They don’t have power, one gives them power. It’s unfortunate that RationalWiki doesn’t have this mindset. But fine. If I’m obligated to care about what someone here might find offensive, then I’ll acclimatize.

And I’m generally not this snarky , or snarly [if that’s a word] but that seems to be the theme of alot of RationalWiki’s articles. So I thought you people wouldn’t take such drastic measurements. Iamapartofman (talk) 23:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

"one gives them power"
by using it as an insult, you're giving it power to demean and exclude. Using that as an insult will give you similar reactions in other places (just as how you shouldn't use "spaz" in UK but in the US, it's more innocuous). S'yeah, would be a good idea to acclimatize if you get told to stop the first time. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 20:07, 25 April 2018 (UTC)