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... only work if the IP user hasn't signed off for the evening. (talk) 13:55, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

So? If they come back, impose longer blocks. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 19:13, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Modern "Art"[edit]

Why do you support the modern, minimalist art? All white paintings, urinals, My Bed? Do you think that the SOLE purpose of art is to be an expression and arouse feelings? Is that it? --Kingdamian1 (talk) 01:14, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

What do you think it is if not a depiction of something intended to evoke feelings? Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 01:37, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Wait, you do not believe that NOT all art is on the same level, and that museums specifically exist for this purpose of preserving art deemed to be significant? Do you not think that this[1] cheapens the WHOLE IDEA of an art museum? --Kingdamian1 (talk) 01:59, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Sure, I'll accept that museums preserve art considered significant. I don't think something must be beautiful or emblematic of holiness to be significant, however. Fountain is very significant to avant-garde art. Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 02:38, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Can I ask you a question. And I hope that you do not take it the wrong way. If I were to ejaculate on a canvass, this would certainly arouse all kinds of emotions, and it would be a statement, an original work and a form of expression... Now if an art museum decided to display my sperm on a canvass in their museum, would you say that the standards of art dropped from the times of Rennaissance or not? Why or why not? By the way, do you speak Georgian or Russian? --Kingdamian1 (talk) 03:34, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
It's quite clearly art. Rather gross art, but art nonetheless, and I don't believe that there's an objective way to evaluate whether standards have decreased. I don't speak either (well, I know how to say hello in both and I can kind of read the scripts, but that's it), why do you ask? Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 03:53, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Before going any deeper, you would not be able to see a difference in standards of evaluating the amount of work, difficulty, aesthetics etc between a museum that accepts jizz stains and a museum which contains the School of Athens? P.S I asked, because I noticed you created the page about Georgia (country). And I speak both of those languages--Kingdamian1 (talk) 04:23, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Wew, nice strawman there. There's absolutely a difference in standards of evaluating the amount of work and difficulty, but not "standards of art." Like I've said before, the point of art isn't to be difficult. Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 19:06, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
That is what I meant. Haven't the standards dropped for what is considered museum worthy, if You can foresee a time where jizz stains are accapted in museums? --Kingdamian1 (talk) 21:47, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
I would argue that the standards were never based on difficulty, but beauty would perhaps be the case. Changing those standards are not a bad thing. Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 21:57, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'd pay money to see that on its opening night. Only on the opening night though. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 21:54, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Usually, people try to invoke a feeling of intellectualism behind a simple "jizz stain". Like, they're trying to communicate a thought and challenge what is "art" and what is "good" art. You really need to read up on modern art history, Kingdamian1, you'll understand more and you'll be better prepared to have this sort of discussion. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 22:41, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
An example of Avent Gaurde implications of this theoretical piece could be calling into question the way much of the world views sexuality, i.e. with revulsion and shame. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 22:47, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
I'll confess that I'm not actually that well-versed in art or art history, but know just enough to challenge KD's assertions about how modern art is low-bar. Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 22:52, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Socialism is a neurological illness --Kingdamian1 (talk) 23:30, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Neurological indicates that one's physical brain is formed differently than normal (i.e. the social average) within the womb which in turn indicates one cannot change one's views. I have changed my political views numerus times as my knowledge and understanding of the world grew. Sadly, most of the American right wing cannot seem to do the same. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:38, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
In addition that last comment from you was a rather childish Ad hominem attack. Are you asking me to treat you like a child? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:42, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Accusing others of having neurological illnesses because you have no idea how to actually counter their points is a neurological illness. :^) Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 23:47, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
"Socialism is a neurological illness"
Oh, jizz off. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 23:52, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
But it is, though, isn't it? You people refuse to accept that a jizz stain is inferior to Mona Lisa. Others, in non-art sphere, support Free (higher) Education, rejection of nationalism etc etc... these are not signs of a healthy mind! --Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:02, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
One: I'm not a socialist. Two: you need to brush up on your knowledge of neurology and psychology if you think rejecting nationalism and supporting free higher education are not signs of a healthy mind. Not to mention that many socialists are nationalists. Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 00:07, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
I would correct that sentence. You do not "call yourself" a socialist. Big difference from not ACTUALLY being a socialist --Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:10, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Lmao. Do tell me how I'm a socialist, dear. Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 00:11, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Ok. Cultural Marxist, Conservative hating, anti free market, Bernie supporter etc etc etc... I don't care what you label yourself... It's the same thing --Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:16, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
And where have you gotten this information about my beliefs from? (also, lol @ hating conservatism makes you a socialist) Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 00:17, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Never argue politics with someone who sees only in "us" vs "them". ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:20, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
What do you mean by "us" vs "them". You have openly stated that you think a RIGHT of a nation to have a nation (nationalism) is xenophobic, and advocate gang rape open borders for Western Countries... Why would I be on "your side". I like my country independent! --Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:23, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I don't recall ever saying anything about thinking only "Western" countries (whatever that means) should have open borders, or even thinking any country should, and neither has GrammarCommie to my knowledge. Your pigeonholing of political ideologies into "socialist" and "conservative," one of which is always evil, is what GC is referring to. Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 00:26, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

No... Socialism is an economic system... It is an opposite of capitalism not conservatism. That being said, usually many people on the left can be clumped into almost identical pots. Not always, of course, but it is surprising to see a leftie who doesn't sympathize with socialism --Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:29, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah. So might you explain how disliking conservatism makes me a socialist, since it's not equivalent to capitalism? Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 00:30, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
But I did not say that... I said that it doesn't matter how you style yourself (one of the examples of how you might style yourself was "conservative-hating"), you have these Cultural Marxist, Socialist ideas. I might not refer to myself as a right-winger, but I clearly am! --Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah, but you did. Allow me to quote directly from above:
"Do tell me how I'm a socialist, dear." -Spriggina
"Ok. Cultural Marxist, Conservative hating, anti free market, Bernie supporter" -KD
I'm rather titillated by you thinking I have socialist ideas (ignoring the "cultural Marxism" thing because it's repackaged Nazi propaganda and you've already been told that it's BS). Again, where have I expressed such things? Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 00:35, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
It doesn't matter what you label yourself, if you support socialism, you are a socialist! --Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:40, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Good job completely avoiding everything I've said so far. You're quite talented at going in circles over and over again, but I'm going to squeeze some reason out of you if it's the last thing I do. So, again, where have I expressed support for the ideals of socialism? Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 00:42, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Cultural Relativism. You support cultural relativism... Usually, socialists do that --Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
[citation needed], and nowhere in the definition of socialism is a mention of cultural relativism. Try again! Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 00:47, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Actually social equality is a common theme from the center-right to the mid-left. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:49, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Are you telling me you are not a socialist? Also, socialist right = Right in Name Only --Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:50, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Whom are you talking to, me or GC? Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 00:53, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm the only openly socialist user active on this website KD1, that is to say almost everyone here is to the right of me. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:53, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
The first part was addressed to you... Also, GC, "openly" is the key word there... Almost everyone here is a socialist --Kingdamian1 (talk) 00:55, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
No, they are simply not raging Fascists bordering on Nazis. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:58, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yes, I'm telling you I'm not a socialist. I do not believe that the workers should own the means of production, disqualifying me entirely from it. I would best be identified as a Third Way social democrat with some flexibility. Also, should we move this to my talk page? The conversation is no longer related to LGM, so there's no reason to give her tons of notifications. Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 00:57, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm not contributing anything to this conversation. I just saw the word "jizz" popup. Carry on.—(((CheeseburgerFace))) Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 00:59, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Well, would you be surprised if this idea actually took off? --Kingdamian1 (talk) 01:07, 22 June 2018 (UTC)— Unsigned, by: Kingdamian1 / talk / contribs
I guess it's important for you guys to know, I endorse values bordering on socialism, if not socialism. I also really like Mario and also Mario's voice actor is left-wing. :) --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 01:36, 22 June 2018 (UTC)


How many times do you think we need to block Kingdamian1 before he breaks his habit of using all caps? My bet is 7 times. — Saj 00:06, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

I think a thousand times. But I think it's time to stop being so nice. If I or anyone else catches him again with the all-caps excess (him doing it once or twice in a paragraph is fine), it's going to be a stern warning. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 00:12, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
His keyboard isn't broken obviously so I think he should start to fix the habit.--(ノ°Д°)ノʇsədɯəꓕ nɹnɯıꓤRimuru Slime.png 00:15, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Block him for 5 years, 18 hours and 54 minutes if he does it again. — Saj 00:23, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
I would hand out sysoprevoke and then block him, as he can just unblock himself. But let's be fair first: warning comes first. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 00:26, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
I made a template for it. — Saj 00:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Why are you guys so triggered by writing some words with all caps? I use it for emphasis! --Kingdamian1 (talk) 02:40, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
I think the word is annoyed, while I have not seen it as much as they have due to being busy I think overuse can be annoying.(ノ°Д°)ノʇsədɯəꓕ nɹnɯıꓤRimuru Slime.png 02:53, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Revoking my Sysop rights[edit]

Seriously? I have made many good edits and someone saw fit to make me a Sysop. Yet because of your dislike for me you decided to wade in and remove them AND add me to the Sysoprevoke user right. What the hell? If I had abused the rights then that would be fair enough but I had done nothing wrong. I will most likely start a Coop discussion about this soon.--RWRW (talk) 01:36, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Community consensus was that you shouldn't have been made a sysop in the first place, and RW is a mobocracy. Spriggina (tal) (framlög) @ 01:45, 24 June 2018 (UTC)


A case involving you has been raised at the Chicken Coop. Feel free to comment. — Saj 01:42, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Best Editor[edit]

§ №1 Editor
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ClickerClock (talk) 08:37, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations! I do sincerely hope this is the kind of beer you like. Spud (talk) 12:48, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Such a nice community. Thanks for the beer too! --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 23:06, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@Spud Do you like IPA? I just tried it today, and I liked it. It goes so well with that prosciutto mozzarella log. I think I drank too fast though. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 02:17, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
IPA? I haven't tried that. I guess that since I've spent most of my adult life in Asia, that's excusable. My favourite beer is Sapporo from Japan. Kirin Ichiban is also good. For legal reasons, Kirin Ichiban cannot be classified as a beer in Japan and is marketed there as a "brew" instead. But it's called a beer in other countries. I'm sure you've had both of those already. Maybe with a teriyaki pizza. Still, it looks like I might have to look for some English beer here in Taiwan to drink while watching the World Cup final in the wee small hours of the morning. Spud (talk) 00:24, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
IPA tastes much stronger than an average beer, just warning you. But it goes great with salty items, according to what I read. I did drink some Sapporo and I enjoyed it more the same. Seems like sometimes, they just taste the same, but that's because I'm not a regular drinker. I had Sapporo with, I think, ramen. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 00:46, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

"Nerds is a candy"[edit]

Don't eat me, please! Nerd (talk) 23:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Depends on what you do. You might slow my dice roll, give me three dice, transform me into a vampire, or even cause me to electrocute people and destroy half their money. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 23:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
(Bill Maher's Southern accent) My parents grew mushroomsWikipedia's W.svg, as did their parents before them, and their parents before them. Nerd (talk) 14:37, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Trident... Do you Real Worlders (for a lack of a better word) grow Super Mushrooms to make chewing gum? Mama mia. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 21:43, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
We grow mushrooms so that we can eat them and become so large we can just step on our opponents instead of jumping on them. Nerd (talk) 02:21, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Wellll, there is a wide variety of Mushrooms. The one you're describing sounds more like the Mega Mushroom. Mushrooms can make you tiny, metallic, electric, encased in a spring, invincible (yes!) or even turn you into a ghost. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 23:45, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Metric vs. Imperial[edit]

Who wins? But seriously, I read that last sentence. Sounds like a good problem in thermodynamics and unit conversion to me. You need to know the specific heat of water. You also need to know about phase transitions, in particular the latent heat of vaporization in this case. Nerd (talk) 12:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps but my impression was that you know that a centimeter is 1/100 of a meter, a milliliter is 1/1000 of a liter, a kilojoule is 1,000 joules. There are some other weird namings, to be fair, like a second, hour, day though I think there were attempts to make those into divisible by 10s, but failed. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 18:30, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Those are common metric prefixes. Anyone who has taken general science knows them. Our conventions for the second, the hour, and the day come from the Babylonians, whose numbering system was based on the numbers 12 and 60. Such numbers are divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 12. The decimal numbering system, the number zero, and the Hindu-Arabic numerals are much more recent inventions/conventions. And yes, you can thank the Babylonians for the convention that there are 360 degrees in a full circle. I have two points to make. First, the numbering system you use is fundamentally irrelevant. Any given number, say \pi, has infinitely many representations, hence the questionable utility of calculating that number to more and more decimal places. One system may be more convenient than others, depending on the situation. You may prefer the decimal system, but not computers. Second, it simply does not matter which measuring system you use, as long as you always state your units. This is something that cannot be emphasized enough in laboratory sessions. Another common misconception, which I attempted correct in the article, is that the metric system is the only kind used in science. I basically gave an incomplete list on non-SI units commonly used in science. In fact, if you get deep enough in certain branches, you will start to appreciate certain arguments against the metric system. Why is that? The answer explains my indifference to metrication. The SI is merely a human convention, to which the Universe is fundamentally indifferent. (Ever wondered why mathematicians and their textbooks could not care less about units, when they say things like, "The volume of Gabriel's horn is \pi"?) The quantity measured, whatever it is, remains invariant. Again, as long as you state your units, it really does not matter. Pick the one you find most convenient.
Here is a fun example. The speed of light c is of vital importance is the special theory of relativity. In a spacetime diagram, one draws two diagonal lines representing two beams of light in free space passing through the origin. They separate causal and acausal regions of the Universe, as nothing that carries information may exceed the speed of light. What is the angle of those diagonal lines? Well, it is most convenient, logical even, to make it \pi/4 (45 Babylonian degrees). How is this possible? Set c=1. If you have taken chemistry, you are surely familiar with another non-SI unit, the atomic mass unit.
Again, unit conversion is a matter of arithmetic. And while we're at it, there is a fun YouTube video from Fermilab in which the host, Professor Don Lincoln, casually poked fun of people who insist on the metric system. Apparently he got a lot of junk mail from those people. I had a good laugh. Forgot which one, though. Nerd (talk) 14:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)