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Chapter 1: The first batch of messages where Mario starts with zero stars because he pissed off God. Part 2: The second horde of words too horrible to describe. Disc 3: The third batch of words that are as boring as Stilton cheese.


You haz one. AceModerator 20:25, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Yah I do but I sometimes forget to check it. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 22:27, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Calling out libraries[edit]

A sysops has added a section to the terf article calling out public libraries for allowing a group like Meagan Murphy's to meet. I wonder if you would agree with making the library's public access policies an issue. When I hear nazi hate speech and compare that to women paranoid about trans-women in their safe spaces, I have a bit of sympathy for the latter because their concern does not seem based in hatred. See Terf Supportive Libraries. It's one thing to criticize terfs, I am uncertain about criticizing the libraries.Ariel31459 (talk) 20:26, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

It's not exactly Neo Nazi group but the language you use to describe terfs is sympathetic when in reality they are intolerant bigots who are unhealthily obssesed with genitals and chromosomes. It's the equivalent of libraries inviting homophobic groups to pander to their concerns about gays in their safe spaces. I think it's worthy being criticized because it always invites hostility to vulnerable groups and what libraries should do is prioritize and protect those vulnerable groups that have faced hostility and worse. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 20:48, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
Basically, imagine if a public library invited a "Death to America/the West" imam to hold an event. Your reaction to that idea is probably pretty close to the way gays and trans people might react to homophobes, TERFs, or alt-righters doing the same thing. 🎄Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano🎄Ask about our holiday specials! 20:52, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
TERFs are most definitely not motivated by anything sympathetic, hell some of them even court fascists due to their shared bigotry. Oxyaena Harass 20:54, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
Agree with the above two viewpoints. And if you think TERFs don't procure violent rhetoric, they do. Of course, there are more reasonable-sounding TERFs, but TERFs are toxic bigots, plain and simple. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 20:57, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
I don't want to draw heavy lines under the obvious but, still, I am not apologizing for Terfs. Let them look after themselves. I am apologizing for public libraries. Library spaces are public spaces that invite the general public. Attempting to exclude terfs from libraries is pointless because it could not possibly be legal, at least in America. It could very well generate more hostility towards trans issues. I think that is likely. I am satisfied to have brought the matter up.Ariel31459 (talk) 21:19, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
We're not excluding TERFs from using libraries in general? We just believe TERFs shouldn't use libraries as a platform to share their hateful ideas to others. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:22, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
That's begging the question. Maybe they shouldn't feel the way they do. If you could chase them away with a rolled up newspaper do you think they would change their minds? In America, Imams who want to destroy America are free to speak as long as they don't call for the commission of a crime. Ariel31459 (talk) 21:29, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
And I'm pretty sure libraries actively know what TERFs are doing and are cooperating with TERFs. This is support for TERFs. Maybe they can tolerate some TERFs on the facade of the library, but most speakings are scheduled, and libraries do have that choice to reject that scheduling if they wish, even if they are public-owned. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:33, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
No. Public libraries do not usually have such discretion, any more than towns can always prevent Nazis or KKK rallys from getting a permit to march in a town."Public libraries that open their facilities to public use cannot disadvantage or exclude speakers or groups from using their facilities solely because they disagree with those parties' views or the content of their speech." American Library Association.Ariel31459 (talk) 21:41, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
But Toronto's own FAQ has this question: "Aren’t we contravening our own policy? Section 4.4a)i of the Community and Event Space Rental policy states that “The Library reserves the right to deny or cancel a booking when it reasonably believes: i. use by any individual or group will be for a purpose that is likely to promote, or would have the effect of promoting discrimination, contempt or hatred for any group or person…”"
This the point of contention here. The library of Toronto CAN reject individuals and speakers if they promote discrimination. They don't think TERFs do this because they dress up their bigotry behind fuzzy terminology like "to have an educational and open discussion on the concept of gender identify and its legislation ramifications on women in Canada", but trans people do see through that smokescreen and that's why they complain. In Seattle's case, however, you are probably correct that they have little they can do to restrict TERFs so maybe that edit should be amended, have some note saying they're a public space restricted by ALA guidelines (assuming the ALA guidelines are authoritative which I believe they are). --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:52, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

The "Banning/tech proposal" topic[edit]

Just want to say that Ace has responded to it. And he's not happy (giving a heads up incase there'd be another Ace/Oxy flame war)... Tinribmancer (talk) 11:57, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

A request[edit]

James Earl Cash and NERD have reappeared. I think that if I conflict with JEC he will take it personally. I would hope he will forgive my past indiscretions. I want NERD to unretire. So, I am inclined to let him have his way as much as possible, especially if he is right in his edits. Ariel31459 (talk) 01:10, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

@Ariel31459 I do not want to be a dictator, so feel free to disagree. As long as you remain calm, rational, and respectful, I really don't mind. I just hate it when people resort to personal attacks. For what it's worth, you are one of the editors who have been the kindest to me. Thank you! Nerd (talk) 01:22, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Winter Board of Trustees meeting[edit]

We need to arrange a time for the next Board of Trustees meeting. Would you be free next Saturday (21 December) at the same early morning time as before? I look forward to speaking to you again. Spud (talk) 16:30, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

I'll try to be, and while I try putting a reminder on my phone, just plop a message in my talk page, if you can remember that (but of course it's my obligation to remember) and that'll be appreciated. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 20:22, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Well, because you asked, I'll remind you. The meeting will be first thing tomorrow morning your time and midnight tonight my time Spud (talk) 07:27, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the reminder. I actually checked last night and it made me set my alarm. It's a good meeting, though I kinda wish FuzzyCatPotato was there. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 17:41, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Mario teaches sex ed[edit]

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The impersonation's quite good, though Mario's impersonation is way too gruff and grating compared to the actual voice in The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 cartoon (which the animation is from; Mario and Luigi have different voices - Mario's Lou Albano, Luigi's Danny Wells in the original Super Mario Bros. Super Show; Mario's Walker Boone, Luigi's Tony Rosato in the Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3) Fun fact: Walker Boone's the only one alive of those four, sadly). I think Luigi is far closer to what he sounds like in the cartoon. And also you can hear me nerd out again about Mario stuff, I like sounding like one.I will say the cartoon is not good. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 05:14, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Mario teaches health class.
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