Talk:Out-of-body experience

Could I get some sites for the "for" evidence, I seen this stuff before and would love to see where it comes from and if it really says what it is being claimed to say. tmtoulouse 13:10, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

It happened to me

Well almost. I had a rollover in a truck once when a tyre blew out and the whole thing was like an out-of-body experience in slow motion. Weird, but not paranormal. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 17:31, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

P.S. I was wearing a seatbelt and escaped completely unscathed, so remember boys and girls, BUCKLE UP. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 17:48, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

I had a similar experience when I slipped while hiking and started rolling down a hill towards a cliff. As wild speculation: I wonder if this could be a result of the brain suspending functions relating to sense of self (hence the detached, "out-of-body" feeling) and devoting more processing power to rapid processing of information (hence everything seeming to slow down, because you are actually thinking faster). Is that at all plausible? ^{— Unsigned, by: 62.172.108.23 / talk / contribs} 6 February 2017 (more than 8 years after all the other posts in this section)

I wrote the last bullet point (the daydream one) based on many personal experiences. Mildly weird, but all in my head, of course... ħuman 17:34, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

I did read somewhere that they're starting to study this using things on high shelves to see if people can "see" them, pretty sure it was one of the newspapers today or yesterday. By controlling what these pictures or symbols are and doing it methodically, we should be able to see proper results rather than anything that's subject to ancedotal exaggeration or bias. Armondikov 17:39, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

I put a link on TWIGO about that, it was on the BBC web-site. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 17:47, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

And just two weeks ago I watched a show on the Discovery Channel about out of body experiences, which mentioned the "witnessing objects on high shelves" and reporting procedures performed in their body. The one I found to be the most eerie was the guy who described what a receptionist outside was wearing with perfect detail, despite having not seen her on the way in. I am trolling around on the Discovery Channel's site, trying to find the citation. Bear with me... ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ I know Anonymous user optimizes outside toothpicks.

Armondikov, was this the article you are talking about? ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ I know Anonymous user optimizes outside toothpicks.

Yes I have heard the high shelves thing many times myself, as well as the anecdotal stories about who was wearing what. It makes great TV I suppose, but at the moment this is all hearsay. We need to see what was actually done, and said to figure out if it means anything at all let alone what it might mean. tmtoulouse 17:48, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Aye, that would be the one. Looks like it's made minor headlines all over, should be interesting when it's finished providing it's done right. I'd be 99.999% certain it'll come back with a negative, though. Be INCREDIBLY interesting if it comes back positive and it isn't a massive set up or hoax. Armondikov 17:51, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

(EC2) Just to keep things in sequence, this was the BBC link. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.}

So the up shot is that the "high shelve" experiments are being done but no data exists yet. tmtoulouse 18:12, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

At-an-angle - what is the longest gap between 'comment' and 'response/follow-on-remark' on a RW talkpage (probably to be found via 'fewest edits') 82.44.143.26 (talk) 16:13, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

The trouble with those experiments is why the soul/ghost/whatever has to be able to see or perceive anything?. Everything that goes to the brain is thank to the senses and I seriously doubt a thing as a ghost or whatever could see/hear/etc. (weird senses we cannot grasp being fleshy is another thing). Panzerfaust (talk) 22:55, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

An easier and safer way to induce OBEs

Oxygen deprivation sounds a very roundabout (and - as noted - possibly dangerous) way of inducing an OBE. A much simpler and very effective method is to use the Christos technique http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Christos_experiment Because the method is so reliable, it is easy enough to demonstrate whether or not the experience is veridical. E.g. put playing cards face up on high surfaces (a la the NDE tests), where they have not been and cannot be seen by the subject. Then immediately induce the OBE. Not quite JREF standards, but it will do for the first cut. It can also be a very realistic experience, so may give skeptics a bit more sympathy with those who claim their OBEs as veridical.

the AWARE-study failed to produce strong evidence

Results of Sam Parnias Study "AWAreness during REsuscitation" were published Sep2014 (see here: http://www.resuscitationjournal.com/article/S0300-9572(14)00739-4/abstract), can sombebody please update? ^{— Unsigned, by: 91.199.65.254 / talk / contribs} 11:51, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

How to prove if they exist

Good post, methinks. https://www.reddit.com/r/AstralProjection/comments/4bb3a5/how_to_prove_astral_projection_to_skeptics/ The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 15:11, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

CIA

If this wasn't cia.gov I'd ignore it as satire: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700270006-0.pdf tldr: time and money wasted with no tangible results. Add information about the above to main wiki? rOOt - 2023 ^{— Unsigned, by: 45.134.142.195 / talk / contribs}