Talk:Planned Parenthood
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Bias[edit]
Why is this article basically summarizing the POV of Planned Parenthood and its advocates instead of skeptically scrutinizing both sides? I made some changes, but I think an overhaul to a more balanced, (and more importantly) more honest and correct version rather than a liberal answer to conservapedia would be preferable. Hitler opposed abortion in Aryans because he wanted more Aryan babies he didn't oppose abortion as a matter of course; he actually forced it in certain non-Aryans, esp. Jews, so to say "Hitler was virulently opposed to abortion" as it did before my edit was blatantly false and just spreading ignorance in the opposite direction. The 3% of services being abortion is technically true, but misleading in that the count equates things like handing out a pregnancy test, something that could be done in literally 30 seconds on a trip to grocery store by the patients themselves to surgical procedures like an abortion: both count as 1 service. If a heart surgeon hands out 97 heart attack/stroke warning signs informational cards for every procedure he/she performs, that still doesn't mean card distribution is the most noteworthy aspect of the business, regardless of the # of "services" rendered. Yes, Kyl was wrong, but doesn't make minimizing Planned Parenthood's role as an abortion provider a more accurate tact. There are far more abortions than treatment of men for example, despite the latter getting its own section. Fiftyseven57 (talk) 23:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hitler has exactly nothing to do with Planned Parenthood, so an analysis of whether he was pro- or anti-abortion isn't appropriate for this article. ωεαşεζøίɗ
Methinks it is a Weasel 12:38, 11 September 2013 (UTC) - Both sides? Really? You think there are only two sides to this? And you think both of these sides are on equal footing somehow? You realize that at some point a discussion is over, right? At some point we've debated an idea enough and we can actually reach a conclusion. For instance, Satan probably isn't actually real. Moreover, Planned Parenthood is not, in fact, an anagram for Satan (I counted the letters, even), and it does actually provide quite a bit of needed service to the poor. Why do you want to waste valuable time giving the benefit of the doubt to far right propaganda? We may as well sift through old World War 2 propaganda posters and seriously consider whether or not the Japanese really are evil goblin people. We MUST be skeptical of both (what?) sides, after all! 24.160.154.102 (talk) 13:49, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Live Action video[edit]
This is all over Fox News's Google+ page, and it's this anti-abortion group never mentioned here by the name of Live Action, releasing a video that supposedly 'proves' that Planned Parenthood fudged up the numbers and that abortion actually accounts for 30% of all PP services. That's an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence, and needs to be scrutinized. IViking (talk) 18:25, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hmm, on the one hand, that's an important accusation that needs examination, on the other hand, who's going to use G+ and see the false claim? ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 18:48, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Godwin loves people that haven't read the article[edit]
The Nazis did support abortion when it their needs to purify the Aryan race.
Excerpt from timeline:
SS head Heinrich Himmler was convinced that abortion was the primary reason for the falling birthrate, and in 1935 he decided to strike back. He decided to make abortions of racially “pure” children less appealing by offering an alternative to their mothers. Women who could prove that their unborn child would fit Nazi racial purity standards could give birth to the child in secret, comfortable facilities. — Unsigned, by: 2607:FB90:E7F:82BC:0:2:AF5A:8C01 / talk
3% of services[edit]
The article makes the claim that abortion makes up 3% of PP's services. This is a bit misleading. PP had 4m visits and 324,000 abortions in 2014. But they had 2.5m patients, and 9.5m discrete services. If a person goes to PP for an abortion, they may be given a pregnancy test, or free condoms, and suddenly they have 3 discrete services instead of 1. Using the visits number, it's better to say that 8% of their services are for abortion, and even then that's a bit of an understatement because it's possible for someone to visit PP multiple times for one abortion. CorruptUser 20:21, 17 April 2023 (UTC)