Talk:Political beliefs of academics

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yeah - let's talk reality

liberalism is a mental disorder - THAT is reality

"the problem with liberalism is you eventually run out of other people's money"

another problem with liberalism is despots don't care if you love everybody and just want peace^{— Unsigned, by: Johninlongmont / talk / contribs}

A series of 3 thought-terminating cliches. Yes, that's definitely going to convince me of ... something. ikanreed ^{You probably didn't deserve that} 15:05, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Effects of education on political ideology

Duarte, Haidt, 2014, Political diversity will improve...

"There is little evidence that education causes students to become more liberal. Instead, several longitudinal studies following tens of thousands of college students for many years have concluded that political socialization in college occurs primarily as a function of one’s peers, not education per se (Astin, 1993; Dey, 1997). These studies show that students become more liberal if they are around liberal peers, and more conservative if around conservative peers. Even the classic Bennington Study (Newcomb, 1943) concluded that it was conformity to liberal norms, more than education per se, that led students to become more liberal."

--- szopen ^{— Unsigned, by: 95.41.101.184 / talk} 19:48, 7 July 2016‎ (UTC)

Excellent point. Not to mention, the absurd claim that liberals are "the most educated ideological demographic in the U.S." has a source from the year 2005! Since then, the site has published additional studies (See: [1]) that show that liberals are not the "most educated" demographic - but I don't expect anything to be removed. Clearly, the main purpose behind this Wiki is to promote liberalism and completely ignore science/rationality. The irony of this site being named "RationalWiki" is astounding. --104.148.178.88 (talk) 22:46, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

reactionary

i have to say that the horseshoe theory that this article pushes is adorably desperate. if you really think marxists are as ideologically axe-grinding, or even in any way close to as dangerous or ignorant as nazis you are on another level of Rational Centrism™

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First-mover effect

One reason an institution might lean a certain way is because it was already stereotyped as leaning that way, kind of a first-mover advantage. For the same reason, churches might get more conservative with time as less socially conservative people are repelled by e.g. the reputation between Christianity and anti-feminism (which we see today in young people), regardless of any exceptions to this. Likewise, conservatives might feel repelled from going into academia because of its liberal reputation, so academia which may have simply leaned liberal originally, could grow more liberal with time. Chillpilled (talk) 11:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't know how to start new discussions

The "surveys" do not state what this "article" is saying. The first one only links news articles that link other news articles without substantive evidential link to the reported numbers. That was looking in good faith for an 35 year old article. The second survey is not a U of T research article, just has a U of T prof. But also a prof from U of O and Smith College. It is a survey about cross-boarder opinions on race and gender is not a survey about political leaning. From the article's own aims " to what extent are there cross-national similarities and differences in faculty and student attitudes towards race, gender, and affirmative-action issues? To what extent, if at all, do minorities and women in higher education institutions on both sides of the border differ from their white and male counterparts? And, more generally, how similar or different are their evaluations of the academic climates for minorities and women?" The third also has sourcing issues with the actual work. Source your claims! ^{— Unsigned, by: 128.100.150.29 / talk / contribs}