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Dubious origins[edit]

I don't really get the "dubious origins" part. Sure we don't know anything about Ol' Peter himself, but Eleutherius in 174 CE is... still pretty damn early, even compared to just about any other institution. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 10:29, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

Come to think of it, I don't really understand where the part about Eleutherius comes from, either. As far as I recall, Anacletus is the earliest bishop of Rome which we have some reasonably reliable sources about. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 10:40, 6 August 2007 (CDT)
OK change it if you know better than me, please. It's not something I'm an expert on. Totnesmartin 02:34, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
Please feel free to rewrite (and improve). Just because our resident Catholic hater got here first, doesn't mean she owns the subject. humanUser talk:Human 05:05, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Retiring Popes[edit]

You may be right. I was thinking of JPII, for whom it was many times suggested. Editor at CP 12:05, 10 December 2007 (EST)

Yes, and I believe he himself also considered resigning after the Jubilee in 2000, but decided not to. In any case, I expect the question will come up again for pretty much every aging pope in the future, although there are some fairly complex issues involved. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 12:20, 10 December 2007 (EST)

What if[edit]

The (generic/any) Pope goes mad/senile and ties the Papacy in knots/gives the Vatican to the poor/defrocks all the cardinals?

By odd coincidence he would die in his sleep. By the way, can you please sign your talk posts. See your talk page for details. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 19:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

And if the Pope is cunning as well as mad/senile/becomes so very slowly etc so it is not immediately obvious what is happening? Or decides to go in for salami/artichoke tactics? (The latter is the vegetarian version of the former.) What happens if 'by some strange mischance' all available cardinals are over 80 (and thus non-voting)?

It was apparently suggested that the Popemobile have a couple of machine-gun users on it, but the proposers were told 'the Pope does not fight back.'

Malachy's last prediction[edit]

Could refer to a natural disaster (eg Tunguska Event mark II/an earthquake) rather than 'a revelation of Antichrists' (any better suggestions for the collective nouns for antichrists?) 212.85.6.26 (talk) 16:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Was the the evolved weasel right to take all that out without discussion? Proxima Centauri (talk) 12:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes. ТyLonely. Ever so lonely. 13:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Other users wrote part of it and I don't see the problem with what I wrote. Proxima Centauri (talk) 14:30, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
That's nice. Тycommunications wire 14:32, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Oftentimes, the LANCBer cannot get his or her way because the forum is riddled with sycophants who gang up on them, even though the LANCBer is clearly correct. LANCB

I don't want to LANCB but I wonder if others are ganging up on me and trying to drive me out. Proxima Centauri (talk) 14:37, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

That's nice. ТyPlease do not click on this 14:49, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

so how bout that guy in alexandria whos also called pope?[edit]

Topic question. --Mikalosa (talk) 02:35, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

The what now? ArchieGoodwin (talk) 02:38, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
"Pope of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria"/"Pope of Alexandria and Patriarch of all Africa on the Holy See of St. Mark the Apostle", leader of about 16 million people, so far been around 117 such popes (including the current one), broke away from the main body of Christianity in the 400's, largest middle eastern christian church?--Mikalosa (talk) 02:43, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Have at. ArchieGoodwin (talk) 02:45, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm not very good at writing articles >.> I just felt like reminding people theres another legitimate guy called pope and if they wanted to put him in they could--Mikalosa (talk) 02:47, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Give it a whirl in your sandbox. And have a little more self confidence. ArchieGoodwin (talk) 02:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
didnt the catholics split from the eastern orthadox ? which was first ? to whom did Peter give the keys ? Hamster (talk) 04:21, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Alexander Pope? 171.33.222.26 (talk) 19:14, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Nobody mentions[edit]

... the 1903 option for a split. 171.33.222.26 (talk) 16:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)


Lucifer as God[edit]

Didn't the pope declare this? I remember hearing something about the Pope chanting or singing a hymn in Latin, declaring Lucifer as God. Thus, the RCC is Satanist...

He said Lucifer for sure, as Lucifer in Latin is... Lucifer... But the rest? I don't know Latin, so I am in no place to say the translation sources are giving are correct.

But still, I'm curious about this. Do you guys know about this?--GoodFight310 (talk) 21:23, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

The fact you idiots cant answer this in two years is great. Plenty of RCC hymns praise Lucifer.--172.223.212.195 (talk) 14:37, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IgdzyMNfjw They even say "Illuminati". How do none of you SEE this--172.223.212.195 (talk) 15:03, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L2aqTgReDg = Translation

"Unknown to most of the Roman Catholic Church members the Vatican venerate Lucifer and they do it hidden in plain sight.

The Easter Mass was broadcast over Vatican television. The Vatican commentator, summarised the meaning of the chant in English as follows:

The deacon is chanting "Oh truly blessed night worthy alone to know the time and hour when Christ rose from the underworld with this holy building shaped with joy", he chanted "in the awesome glory of this holy night."

The first problem with the commentator is that the Vatican provided an interpreter for the television audience, but there was no interpreter for the church audience. The second problem with the interpretation is that the Vatican interpreter gave an abbreviated summary of the chant which was incomplete. His resulting interpretation of what the deacon chanted was therefore misleading. The interpreter glossed over and concealed the true meaning of the deacon's chant. The actual English translation of the pertinent section of the deacon's chant is as follows:

Flaming Lucifer finds mankind, I say: Oh Lucifer who will never be defeated, Christ is your son who came back from hell, shed his peaceful light and is alive and reigns in the world without end. (emphasis added)

This same Exsultet chant was repeated in an Easter mass in 2013, where the celebrant was the newly installed Pope Francis I.

Quoted from: Edward Hendrie "AntiChrist- The Beast Revealed (pg 167)

http://third-secret.pro-forum.co.uk/h65-final-proof-of-the-existance-of-god-published-in-colombia — Unsigned, by: 172.223.212.195 / talk / contribs

Jesus the light of the world - so he #is# Lucifer. 86.134.53.55 (talk) 21:46, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Any plans to notify the Vatican? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 00:19, 31 July 2017 (UTC)