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Worried

This makes me worried. Elassint 18:53, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

What are the exact natures of your worries? human 19:06, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

Wouldn't that be better in singular? Unless they're some really complex worries, of course. --AKjeldsen^Godspeed! 19:22, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

That's what I was allowing for. Clumsily, I admit. human 19:25, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

Isn't that a tad Holmsian? The singular affair of the complex daemon. Susan^{speak your mind} 19:31, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

how do you like my wicked parallel addition?

I'm new here. how do you like my wicked/satan addition?

Meh. I fixed the writing a bit. Never heard of the book in question though...PFoster 21:01, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

it's a retelling of the wizard of Oz, but with the wicked witch of the west portrayed as the protagonist.Sanity

Oh yeah, I added a li'l Q'N'A on yo' punk asses!

Hope it brings at least vague amusement.Moiph 12:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

"the big G in the Kingdom of H" This should come with a health warning! :p But it's fun reading, especially how Satan is blamed for reality television, that guy gets such a raw deal. ^sshole 13:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I think we should use Q&As for every article on this here site, the comedy value is too much. <<<That's probably why I've never been allowed to run a website. ;) Moiph 03:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Devilish diet

According to a 19th century French biologist, whom a student dressed as a devil had, as a prank, threatened to eat, 'horns and cloven hooves indicate a vegetarian.'

Reinterpret the story of Cain and Abel in the light of this assessment.

Write on only one side of the paper at any one time. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 17:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Tempting Eve

AFAIK, Satan ≠ serpent, though they are often conflated. Too lazy to check. Anyone can do this? --ZooGuard (talk) 19:02, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Is Satan *really* God's / Christianity's "adversary?"

This was mentioned briefly in the article, but I'd really love to hear / read what Christians (of any kind) have to say in response to it. I think I'm right in saying that the word or name "Satan" translates as "adversary" but it seems to me that it's the exact opposite - that he still works for God, obeying His instructions and carrying out His will... God (allegedly) sends those people who offend Him to Hell to be punished by Satan and his minions - if Satan really is opposed to God then why does he work so hard as God's jail warden? An entity which set itself firmly against God would surely, in Satan's position, refuse to punish the sinners and possibly even reward them for their un-Christian actions amirite? Perhaps Lucifer did rebel and was punished by being sent to run Hell (which must be a *really* crappy job...), but it seems clear enough that he is still on God's side and not in any way an "adversary." The name "Satan" just doesn't seem to fit. --Stickie 86.29.236.140 (talk) 10:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

A lot of "hellology" has been layered on top of the Bible in post-Biblical times, first by theologians, then by (popular) culture (Paradise Lost, etc.) So keeping track of the various versions and trying to forge a consistent narrative from them is hard, if not impossible.

I suggest starting by finding all the references to Satan in the original material. Pay extra attention to the book of Job. :)--ZooGuard (talk) 10:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Most of what people think about Satan isn't from the Bible at all, but from Dante's Inferno and Milton's Paradise Lost. In the Bible he's a prisoner in Hell, not ruler of it. Sophie^Wilder 10:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

The Bible is like the source book, Inferno and Paradise Lost are like expansion packs. ^sshole 14:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Fanfic, more like. We're talking the original canon war here. Sophie^Wilder 15:04, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

The Christian of Satan is dubious. The Jewish view of Satan is more internally consistent does not regard him as a rebel, but loyal opposition. He was created by YHWH to screw with people. For him to be at conflict with YHWH would undermine monotheism. Satan is usually not even a literal being but just a symbol of internal struggle to do the right thing. Lucifer in Isaiah isn't Satan but a Babylonian King who is being mocked. If it wasn't more entertaining to have the Christian version I would advocate changing the description to the Jewish version. Arachne1988 (talk) 02:40, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Ref codes screwed up

Something weird is going on with the ref's on this page. The two items that SHOULD appear as the footnotes for the opening Shakespeare quote appear nowhere at the bottom of the page, and the superscripts that DO appear in the Shakespeare quote point to unrelated footnotes. Is this because these first two refs appear inside a cquote template-block? --Tracer (talk) 22:55, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

You're misusing the template. It's for pull quotes. Use the standard HTML

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and

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tags. You can put refs inside those, although what you're saying are refs aren't, but they are consistent with the shitty quality of the article, so there's that. 23:37, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, at least he's honest

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mercynotsacrifice/2014/08/05/daddy-is-the-devil-real/

To be honest, I’d be more scared of the world if I didn’t believe there was a devil. Because we have had some hideous things happen in our world. During the dirty wars in Latin America in the eighties, military torturers did incredibly horrendous things to other peoples’ bodies. Now, in Iraq, the ISIS terrorist group is literally crucifying its political opponents. If that kind of behavior is natural to humanity, then our world is an incredibly scary place. I have to believe that it isn’t natural, that there’s an evil one who possesses people, and that most importantly, they can be delivered from this possession and have their humanity restored.

--ZooGuard (talk) 16:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Comparisons

God has to keep an eye on #everybody all the time# to see that they are being good (according to whatever current conventions are).

Satan just has to wait until said people 'one minor offence from a long list' is committed (no matter how many or how few such offences are committed thereafter).

God requires eternal praise from those in heaven.

Satan makes no such requirement.

Any more? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 16:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Ribbit, ribbit

Can Satan's coat of arms [1] be included here?? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 17:27, 19 December 2016 (UTC)