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Talk:Sex-positivity

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This Sexuality related article has been assessed as SIGNIFICANTLY PROBLEMATIC in one or more ways. See RationalWiki:Article rating for more information.

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About the list[edit]

"All of us who are tried of the strawman that "sex-positive feminism is the exception while Andrea Dworkin is the norm"" --RBP

I saw Christopher got rid of the list and RBP reverted. If the purpose of the list was to tackle the strawman, I think adding that in would be a nice inclusion.Th hug.gifCheeseburgerFace Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 18:14, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Ogling for justice[edit]

Don't mind if I do. 217.119.171.154 (talk) 13:44, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Elephant in the room[edit]

The sex-positivity in this article seems a very American movement within American feminism, as in the Internet arguments about feminism around 2010-2012. Just look at the list of examples, with one Taiwanese woman (Josephine Ho) and 24 US citizens or US residents! The Wikipedia article is also very US-American. It might be wise to either expand the RationalWiki article to talk about ancient philosophy and St Augustine, or frame it clearly as about American sex-positivity in particular. Polydamas (talk) 02:23, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm not actually aware of too much "sex positive feminism" stuff outside America, and Google did not seem to give me any answers. Essentially, I see "sex positive feminism" as a reaction within the feminist communities to staunchly anti-pornography American feminists like Andrea Dworkin. I would not be surprised if it really does not exist elsewhere. There might be elements of such in other countries... but perhaps within a different paradigm. America, for a long time, has had an unusually bipolar viewpoint on pornography and sexuality. Especially in the 1970s-1980s, where America had both one of the more vibrant and notable pornography industries, as well as having an unusual amount of fundamentalists for a developed country. BobJohnson (talk) 03:15, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
I think Shere Hite moved to Germany where the public seemed friendlier. I think people in most countries have to deal with Christian and Islamic sex-negativity and body-negativity, but it seems like the intellectual movement and pop culture brand was very US-American. Did Beate Rotermund-Uhse use this label auf Deutsch? I'm not an expert on feminist thought. Polydamas (talk) 05:32, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
I suspect this guy from Wikipedia covers some relevant things. Its hard to have misogyny without sex-negativity because many men are steamed that women have such power over them and to get good sex you have to pay attention to them and what they want. Polydamas (talk) 18:36, 7 March 2025 (UTC)