Talk:Warren Hern

	This Abortion related article has been awarded BRONZE status for quality. It's getting there, but could be better with improvement. See RationalWiki:Article rating for more information.

I found a quote mine on Conservapedia

In medical practice, there are few surgical procedures given so little attention and so underrated in its potential hazards as abortion. It is a commonly held view that complications are inevitable. - {{{2}}} At least I assume it's a quote mine. It's just the kind of statement that seems like it could have a totally different meaning if you read the next sentence. Here's their source...--User:Brxbrx/sig 20:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Do you ever feel like putting up a "Steve" list in response to crap like this. This cite lists 10 complications due to abortion - wanna now how many of those very complications happen during pregnancy, labor, failed labor (ie., c-section), etc? grrr... cause trust me, the number of women who die from complications of birth is far higher than those who die from complications of abortion. like magnitudes higher. (assuming i actually know what the math is behind a 'magnitude'). En attendant Godot 20:14, 8 September 2011 (UTC) (googling the quote from Hern. it does sound like something he said, cause he's always advocating for better training, free / easy (not in cost but free in the sense of legal and non harrassed) access to abortion, etc.En attendant Godot 20:14, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

here's where it's from "http://books.google.com/books?id=30EzZPp1ypYC&pg=PA470&lpg=PA470&dq=In+medical+practice,+there+are+few+surgical+procedures+given+so+little+attention+and+so+underrated+in+its+potential+hazards+as+abortion.+It+is+a+commonly+held+view+that+complications+are+inevitable.&source=bl&ots=Oqshp-iSQV&sig=NpyahSSGeLpQfT53s7qkRZT582k&hl=en&ei=TCJpTtG7FaGusAKSs73_DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CE4Q6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q&f=false" page 470. And of course, here's the rest. "The reasons for this are not difficult to find. Abortion has been a stigmatized operation by the medical community for centuries. Medical teaching facilities have considered abortion too simple a procedure to merrit serious instruction and too taboo, to warrant true discussion... yeah quote mines.En attendant Godot 20:22, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Of course WfG knew where to find it. My attempt at Google picked up every anti abortion site on the web. It's as quote mined as Darwin's comment on the eye. Bob Soles (talk) 20:24, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

{ec}Great work, Godot. I'll be sure to prod them on it once their database is unlocked (seriously, I can't edit. I'm not blocked, and is it really already considered night time?)--User:Brxbrx/sig 20:25, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Ahhhh, research! First I assumed he wrote it, but it was quote mined, so on that assumption I "googled" in a Science Citation Index. "google scholar" also had it.En attendant Godot 20:31, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Brx - they lock down the system at night? fuck they are paranoid. En attendant Godot 20:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Exactly why isn't this bronze level?

I've seen the brozne around here. This was even before Nutty's changes, decently well written, well researched, connected and relevant to the wiki at large. What gives?GodotThe Peyote God awaits 22:25, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

I'll restore it. Ty^talk 22:32, 2 October 2011 (UTC)