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Is this the hideous new interface planned for the forums?

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX23:53, 14 November 2010

No, this is a hideous new interface available with MediaWiki 1.16. I was wondering whether we should use it on the forums.

- π23:55, 14 November 2010
 

Is horrid. But they always say that about new things. (It's still horrid)

SusanG Toast23:56, 14 November 2010

I do like that you can reply to people at levels though.

- π23:57, 14 November 2010

I hate it. This is a Wiki; whatever happened to signing your posts with four tildes and actually having to hit "reload" to see replies?

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX23:59, 14 November 2010

You have to reload to see replies now. At least now you can reload just the thread and not the whole page

- π00:02, 15 November 2010
 

Sorry I misread your reply.

- π00:07, 15 November 2010
 

You can reply at any level in wiki-lang too, just make the indent appropriate. I do it all the time. ħumanUser talk:Human 17:46, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

ħumanUser talk:Human17:46, 21 November 2010

Hmm, so I hit "reply" to a comment four above this. That comment did not end up where I wanted it to.

I am assuming that one advantage to this ghastly system is that it avoids edit conflicts? I can't think of any others.

ħumanUser talk:Human17:48, 21 November 2010

ListenerX already replied to that same comment, and then there were two replies to that. Your comment comes after Listener's, but the two replies to his comment are inserted in there... it makes sense if you think about it.

-- Nx / talk17:53, 21 November 2010

Barely, yes. I see what it did. But that's not where I wanted my reply to post. ħumanUser talk:Human 17:58, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

ħumanUser talk:Human17:58, 21 November 2010
 
 

The point is that it's much easier with lqt.

-- Nx / talk17:48, 21 November 2010
 
 

It is ugly, but it's convenient. You can use it on your talk page if you want.

-- Nx / talk23:58, 14 November 2010

The convenience I like. Can we fix the ugly a bit, throw some colours on it?

- π00:00, 15 November 2010

I agree with the number. But I'm getting a 4chan vibe from this. so please don't change the saloon bar.

TyrannisAn iron, yet caring fist00:03, 15 November 2010

There is a principle in design: "KISS," short for "Keep It Simple, Stupid." Deviate from this principle and things start to become Byzantine in complexity. But if we must have this, could the background color of the boxes be changed to be the same as the page background?

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX00:16, 15 November 2010

Using MediaWiki as a forum is not simple. You have to manually do indentation, manually sign your comments, you have to deal with unsigned comments, you have to deal with edit conflicts, and the database is littered with redundant data because with every comment the entire page is saved.

-- Nx / talk00:17, 15 November 2010

(ECx200000000) Hey. You would have edit conflicted me just then, so I am still going to complain about it.

- π00:19, 15 November 2010

Also, why do the latest replies get cut off when you reload the page, so that you have to click the link "Show X replies" every time?

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX00:24, 15 November 2010

Because they didn't want people going off on tangents. You're supposed to reply to the first post, not the previous one.

-- Nx / talk00:26, 15 November 2010

How counter-intuitive is that? Smiley freakout.gif This is completely ruining the fun of conversation here. It is as bad as the user interface of Mac OS Classic.

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX00:34, 15 November 2010

You have to keep in mind that this was designed for Wikipedia.

-- Nx / talk00:36, 15 November 2010

That place is SERIOUS BUSINESS, we want fun here.

- π00:37, 15 November 2010
 
 

Going off on tangents is what RW is for though!

ħumanUser talk:Human17:50, 21 November 2010
 

I just replied to Nx' comment that says "Because they didn't want people going off on tangents." and I can't even find my reply.

ħumanUser talk:Human17:51, 21 November 2010

It's here.

-- Nx / talk17:52, 21 November 2010
 
 

That can be changed - I think. Comment tower?

- π00:26, 15 November 2010
 

You can change it in preferences, just set a high enough value.

-- Nx / talk00:45, 15 November 2010
 
 
 

This is fairly simple. You see a comment you wish to reply too. You click reply and you type in the box.

- π00:18, 15 November 2010

On the other hand, with MediaWiki you could easily cut entire conversations to different pages, interleave your replies when necessary, etc. Also, you were forced to read any new posts to a conversation before you posted your own because of the edit conflicts.

Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX00:22, 15 November 2010