Let's call this your only chance

Rape statistics are really hard to deal with, because of under-reporting, but the latest figures from the UN range from zero to almost 93/100 000 per year. I don't know what that works out to for the odds for a particular woman in her life, but what country you live in seems to be a pretty big factor. Sexual assault probably trends way higher than rape, but that may change depending on the criminal code of each particular country and how they define the terms, I dunno. Man, you people get pissy with each other.

My guess is that it's what the more extreme Feminists (the ones who give Feminism a bad name and make it harder for anyone who wants to advance women's rights) define rape in such a way that 1 in 3 women will experience sth that they define as rape.

If you way that having sex with someone who is drunk is rape because she is not responsible for her actions, than that would also mean that men who rape women while drunk are not responsible for their actions. Most of these people have probably never been drunk. I've had people I would never have sex with sober try to do me while I was drunk, and I... did not have sex with them. You don't lose control over your actions not to have sex just because you're drunk.

Wow. You're a really hateful piece of work, aren't you? Next time I'm passed-out-drunk I'll try to remember to do better at taking responsibility for what happens to me.

If you pass out and someone has sex with you, that is rape.

Well, I'm glad your feminism is radical enough to embrace the idea that you can't fuck unconscious people. Maybe soon we'll get you to understand that alcohol impairs judgement, and therefore drunk people cannot give consent. Hope springs eternal.

Yeah, no shit. I'm sure even the Republicans understand that. Alcohol impairs judgment, yet it's more like hypnotism; you're more likely to do things you wouldn't normally do, but you don't do anything you're extremely opposed to.

By your argument, men who rape women while drunk are not responsible for their actions and consequently should not be punished.

No, because consent to having something done to you isn't the same thing as responsibility for what you do.

And what if two drunk people having sex? Are they both raping each other? And what about the thousands of people who willingly have sex while drunk? To call that rape would be degrading to the tragedy and seriousness of rape.

So, you are of the "a Russian soldier jumped out of the bushes at me" school of rape definition. Figures.

No. I am well aware that nearly all rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

Are you aware of the concept of mens rea? Given that awareness, certainly you realize case law in your jurisdiction means the mens rea is intent, which alcohol doesn't prevent. See specifically [1].

Yes, I understand intent. Anyone who intentionally rapes a woman should suffer the full penalty of committing rape, even if they are drunk. I believe that people are fully responsible for crimes that they commit while drunk.

If two drunk people have sex, that is not rape.

If a man forces a drunk woman to have sex, that is rape.

"My guess is that it's what the more extreme Feminists (the ones who give Feminism a bad name and make it harder for anyone who wants to advance women's rights) define rape in such a way that 1 in 3 women will experience sth that they define as rape."

Your "guess" is exactly that. "A guess."

So I am a victim of rape, is that what you are saying?

Only you would know. Were you in a situation where you felt compelled to have sex, where you were not given a choice in having sex, or where you did not really understand what was going on?

Ie., were you drunk enough to really give consent? You'd have said yes to painting the cat orange, if someone asked you to?

It's not about a need to define rape such that so many women end up "being raped", it's about getting a male entitled society to figure out it's not ok to use a women, just cause. you rally need to know she's ok with what you are doing.

I would say I felt compelled to have sex because of the social pressure to have sex, and so I felt it wasn't something I could walk away from. Another time I was blacked out, so I would say I wasn't really aware of what was going on.

I agree with your last part.