User talk:Inquisitor Sasha

I'm going to be working on an anti vandalism bot as a Python learning project. If you have any ideas for it, please let me know. inquisitorsasha@sturmkrieg.ru

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Jewish Bolshevism

My grandfather's family had a number of Jewish Bolsheviks before they emigrated to Canada in the teens. What does any belief about them have to do with racism, motherfucker? 15:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

There were Bolsheviks who were Jewish. Claiming that Communism is the work of Jews is racist. This isn't a topic that I should be discussing here. I invite you to discuss it in private over at Gamer-Net or on Facebook. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein 03:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

It occurred to me that this might be about this "If you believe this user is a Jewish Bolshevik, you might be racist." There was someone who claimed that the Warhammer 40,000 army I'm doing with a friend is intended to indoctrinate people with the storyline behind it. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein 03:41, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

You are incomprehensible. I still have no idea what you're talking about. I don't know why I bothered asking. And no, I'm not going to some other forum to talk to you. If you can't express yourself clearly, you should reconsider trying. 03:54, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Look who's back. The last and final arbiter of what is really racist, sexist or ableist. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?. 03:56, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Also, nazirape nazirape nazirape woo woo woo. 13:22, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Woo! Nazirape! PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?. 13:24, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Creationistgoat creationistgoat creationistgoat woo woo woo. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR 04:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Translation from Iquisitorese to AssumeBadFaithish: Someone somewhere on the Internet called IE a Jewish Bolshevik for some reason or other. They may or may not have been an out-and-proud racist, or at least a fan of the Third Reich. In defiance/to taunt them, IE decided it's a good idea to add to his userpage an userbox (now removed) saying "If you believe this user is a Jewish Bolshevik, you might be racist." and to sign himself as "IE, Jewish Bolshevik".--ZooGuard (talk) 15:00, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

What the hell is wrong with you now?

Making someone a sysop on their first day? PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?. 15:54, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

I didn't check the days. I did see that he had several major contributions to articles. Anyway, it can wait then. Also, I saw what you did there. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR 16:06, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Scripts

Inquisitor,

I saw your message. Sadly, I didn't actually write that script, it was originally written by Lupin over at en.wikpedia.org. What I did was to port it for use over here, I'm not all that good at writing Javascript, so I can't volunteer to script for you. I appreciate the invite, though. Spasiba !  DeadMan Wonderland  

I'm not real advanced in scripting knowledge either. I've done a few basic things though, if you want to work on anything. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR 02:35, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Homework

https://www.google.com/search?q=paradox+of+tolerance (Just in case you actually care.)--ZooGuard (talk) 19:58, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm aware. That's a common defense. There's still a big difference between being intolerant of actual hate groups and being intolerant against people who have different opinions. Hating the Westboro Baptist Church: legitimate intolerance. Claiming that someone is homophobic for supporting legal gay marriage but not wanting to call it marriage: bigoted against different opinions. I think that gay marriage should be called marriage and that it's infantile and overly conservative and silly to not want to call it marriage, but I'm mature enough to handle different opinions and I don't think that people who want to call it something different are bigoted against gay people. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR 04:17, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I am yet to hear a genuine argument from a public figure for not wanting to call a marriage of a same sex couple marriage that is not rooted in homophobia. AMassiveGay (talk) 12:26, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I've talked to people like that. It's because some people are overly conservative about what things are called. If you accepted their support for gay marriage instead of trying to claim that they're bigoted, you would have a lot more support. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR So you think opposing Nazis is tilting at windmills? 13:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I will accept their support for gay marriage when they actually support it, not when they think calling it something else is the same thing or has the same status. Seperate but equal IS bigotry. AMassiveGay (talk) 14:11, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

If they're supporting the legal right of gay marriage than they're supporting it. If there are Lettuce, Guacamole, Bacon, and Tomato fundies who are too self righteous and bigoted to accept that, it's their problem. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR So you think opposing Nazis is tilting at windmills? 14:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

no they are not supporting gay marriage and it isn't 'people being overly conservative about what things are called' its people not wanting filthy queers sullying their concept of marriage. Its people not want the relationships of gay people validated by law. Its people saying yes you can have the same rights, but don't think for a second that your relationship is any as valid as proper marriage. Its people saying you and your kind will forever be second class. So yes, if you oppose gay marriage I will call you a homophobe and a bigot and I will not be satisfied just because you are no longer burning me at the stake. AMassiveGay (talk) 14:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

EC, I am trying hard not suggest any hypocrisy of someone who sees Nazis crawling out of the woodwork lecturing people about seeing bigotry when there is none, but I guess I just failed at that. AMassiveGay (talk) 14:34, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

There are some people who want the distinction for that reason. There are others who are overly silly about what should be called "marriage." You need to recognize the difference in motives for the same belief. If you try to group them all together as homophobes, than you're a bigot and you're doing the exact same us-them bullshit that bigots, segregationists, and genocidal regimes do. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR So you think opposing Nazis is tilting at windmills? 14:36, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Separate but equal]. Calling it "conservative" answers nothing about motives or effect, which Gay addressed well. 16:19, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I've met people who are clearly very supportive of gays and who reject church silliness about opposing two dudes doing it in the ass and living together, but who were overly silly about what they wanted to call marriage. I don't think that it's bigoted to support the legal right but want to call it something different; other people disagree. I'm alright with that as long they don't start using their bigot slander and shaming tactic. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR So you think opposing Nazis is tilting at windmills? 16:31, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Nazis crawling out of the woodwork

Good to see that comment. So you think that the 19 year old Black kid who was murdered by Nazis is just a tin foil hat joke. There's no fucking backpedalling from that now that you revealed that about yourself. And since you've decided to take this to ad hominem, get out of your limited, sheltered, rich White circle jerk that's keeping your head in rich White liberal groupthink you Yankee fuck. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR So you think opposing Nazis is tilting at windmills? 14:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

OK I've tried to be civil but that's obviously impossible considering wafer thin skin. What the fuck is wrong with you? You are a living breathing Godwin's machine. It is you who is actively supporting Nazis and their ilk by calling everyone a Nazi so that everyone stops listening. You are like the boy who cried wolf. Do you really think, considering your near constant references and allusions to Nazis, that a glib reference to that fact marks me a racist, murders condoning, Nazi sympathiser? You are fucking imbecile. Do you think that you can tell from that glib remark what kind of background, lifestyle I have, how wealthy I am, what circles I move in? You have no grasp of who people are or their motivations and you make no attempt to find out. You'd be a disgrace if you weren't such a fucking joke. I'm not back pedalling from anything I have said because, as you'd realise if you weren't such a inane prick, there is nothing to back pedal from. AMassiveGay (talk) 15:24, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

You made the attack first. We should drop attacks if we want to discuss this rationally. I'm not taking a guess at your background from that comment; it's from your intolerance of different opinions. This is something that liberals I know take seriously, and they consider it a bad thing to be locked into a liberal community, experience only liberal views, and end up adopting liberal groupthink. Anyway, I'll ignore it. We should not have made personal attacks. I'll keep discussing this without attacks if you want, if you do the same. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR So you think opposing Nazis is tilting at windmills? 15:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

firstly, don't try and hide your bullshit it makes it look like I am at fault for your bile. Secondly, if you think what I said is in some way a personal attack is in any way comparabled to calling me a racist nazi, then you a fucking imbecile. Thirdly, if you think anything I have said marks me a bigot locked into some narrow liberal world view indicating some kind of privilige, you are a fucking imbecile. Fourthly, try learning some self awareness, you fucking imbecile. AMassiveGay (talk) 16:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Wow... –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR So you think opposing Nazis is tilting at windmills? 16:14, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I hesitate to address you personally because I really don't want to have a conversation. I will just repeat that you ought to know that at this point anyone here could remove your rights and infinitely block you and nobody would lift a finger to come to your defense. Calling someone a Nazi apologist is as bad as it gets, yet you manage to pile on and make it worse. Watch it. Your appalling behavior won't be tolerated forever. 16:23, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I'll keep it private. I'll send you a message on Facebook, if that's ok. If you don't want to communicate there, I understand. –Aleksandr Ehrenstein ЯR So you think opposing Nazis is tilting at windmills? 16:34, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Archive?

With more than 40 threads, I think that this talk page is overdue some archiving. I'll engage further only after a clean-up.--ZooGuard (talk) 15:06, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Job done. Sophie^Wilder 17:48, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Vicious defamation against TheAmazingAtheist

This discussion was moved here from talk:TheAmazingAtheist.

This article that you have is viciously defamatory. I suspect that many of you will try to say that it is not. I strongly caution against this verdict. The outcome of this report will set a precedent for any similar articles. How can you even be sure that he wasn't impersonated? Fergelteskaya (talk) 19:07, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

The page appears to be fairly extensively sourced. Can you provide a specific part you believe to be defamatory? AntiDeathPill (talk) 19:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Some Rational Wiki editors said that a similarly well cited article on another wiki was defamatory. It seems that users here think that articles like this are defamatory, so I'm bringing this to your attention. Fergelteskaya (talk) 19:12, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Believe it or not, RationalWiki editors are not a unified, amorphous mass that form a hivemind and act as one. Even if we were a shoggoth or a siphonophore, the conduct of editors elsewhere does not affect the actual content of the page nor the standards by which it is evaluated to be defamatory. For a statement to be defamatory, it must be objectively false; you provide no such statement on the page, and I cannot find one. AntiDeathPill (talk) 19:21, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

There was a Rational Wiki user that claimed that another article that did not contain any objectivly false statement was defamatory. It was of a very similar nature to this one. Fergelteskaya (talk) 19:28, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Who and what article? Provide links and back up what you day, or go away. --Revolverman (talk) 19:30, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Frankly I don't care what a "Rational Wiki user"[sic] claimed elsewhere. Are there any errors of fact in the page? If there are: give details, if not: piss off. Scream!! (talk) 20:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

"Some Rational Wiki editors said that a similarly well cited article on another wiki was defamatory." So what? Anybody can edit at Rational Wiki. You are editing at Rational Wiki.

What somebody may have said somewhere else is utterly irrelevant to the point you seem to want to make here.--Bob^{"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that."} 20:07, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Is that you Ehrenstein? I see your bigotry-thing has been taken offline, so I'm guessing maybe this is your Vergeltung? ఠ_ఠ Wěǎšěǐǒǐď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 21:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I really hope its not Generalissimo Rape. --Revolverman (talk) 22:28, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I see that the rape of 10 million people is a joke to you.

@Weaseloid: Sturmwaechter was a bitch and took it down because of content that we were clearly justified in putting up. I even had a moral debate with Arcane about it, and we both agreed. And you do know that I have my own server, right? It doesn't matter what anymore what Sturmwaechter decides to do to enforce his sudo admin status. This is not my vergeltung. That is going to be for everyone who thought that they could willfully spew apalling horseshit. In all honesty it's probably going to be nothing. I'm working on letting it go. Found assholes on the internet, no need to take an interest in them. Fergelteskaya (talk) 01:14, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Whatever. Are you going to provide any links or back up to your claim, or are you just going to off on meaningless tangents? --Castaigne (talk) 04:05, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

OK I think we're done here. Ŵêâŝêîôîď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 06:45, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Alright, as with the comment below and a similar comment on the Saloon Bar, it's not defamatory. That means that the similar article is not defamatory. The article about PowderSmokeAndLeather was not defamatory. According to you all, it is OK to have that article about Powder published. You all think that article was acceptable. Literally the exact same type of situation and article style. Fergelteskaya (talk) 17:43, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Show me the article (with sources) about PowderSmokeAndLeather and I'll give you my opinion then.

Hint:It's not libel if it's all true.--The Madman (talk) 23:17, 5 January 2014 (UTC)The Madman

RAPE RAPE NAZI RAPE RAPE . Hipo^crite 20:06, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Лаврентий Павлович?

Really? I'm trying very hard not to ask you whether you share some of his alleged hobbies, too.--ZooGuard (talk) 12:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure that "hobby" was bullshit. A lot of Germans were able to "have their way" with American perceptions of Communism after the war. They needed to try to claim that what they had done in the USSR hadn't been wrong. –Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 45px 16:27, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh look, you're making excuses for a rapist, just because he's on *your* side. Sophie^Wilder 21:29, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm not making excuses. I'd like to know what "side" you think I'm on. If there is proof that Beria committed rape, I'd like to see it. Until then, I'm going to assume that it is yet another unfounded accusation intended to slander the Soviet Union, which I have no particular intent to defend. However, such slander against the Soviet Union has been used to support racist agendas. –Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 45px 21:50, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

You're not going to check in case it turns out to be true, so instead you'll imply I'm a racist. You are a horrible, twisted person with no sense of common decency. Sophie^Wilder 22:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I never said that you're a racist or even implied that. I said other people use lies about the USSR for racist agendas. Plenty of well intentioned people believe the lies, since revisionist websites are intended to look legitimate, usually. –Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 45px 22:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Out of curiosity: Why did you put a picture of Beria on your userpage then? Apart from the alleged predator "hobby", his other, well documented "hobbies" like torture, murder etc. etc. are also not something I hope you wish to share. What is it that you find fascinating about him? Cheers--Th. Bernhard_{Das Leben ist ein Prozeß, den man verliert, was man auch tut und wer man auch ist.} 22:21, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I mainly did it because I knew it would get to racist morons who would froth at the mouth with wildly exaggerated claims about bad things he did. It was a bad idea. I'm going to leave until I finish working on an anti-vandal bot, and then return once I have it done. Until then I'm going to steer clear. –Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 45px 22:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

P.S. The "talk" link in your signature still points to your old username.--ZooGuard (talk) 12:19, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

You have permission to change stuff like that. –Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 45px 16:27, 15 February 2014 (UTC)