Debate:Is the EU the Roman Empire?

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Proposition

After managing to read your rants, I have come to believe that the EU is the reorganized Roman Empire and the end times are coming. ^{— Unsigned, by: Bootmii / talk / contribs} 06:19, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Watching to much Omega code?--il'Dictator Mikal 06:21, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Wait… What? Peter ^{with added ‼Science‼} 07:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Not a clue what Boot is on about; but the european union being the roman empire renewed is a common way that people try and mesh the fact much of Revelations is filled with rome symbolism and still be prophecy; one such was The Omega Code. --il'Dictator Mikal 07:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

So what makes them 'Roman,' as opposed to, say, Viking? Peter ^{with added ‼Science‼} 07:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

the bible.--il'Dictator Mikal 07:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Naturally... Who does it revert to if the EU collapses tomorrow (and the world doesn't end, of course)? Peter ^{with added ‼Science‼} 07:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I always thought that the Roman Catholic Church was the reorganised Roman Empire. Pi 3:14 (talk) 11:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Mmm, no, I think it's Germany. Or at least was, with the Holy Roman Empire. Not that it was an Empire. Or Roman. Or that Holy. But if I remember my Medieval:TW, the Holy Roman Empire was considered the continuance of the Roman Empire, until about the time of Napolean.-- ^{Spirit of the Cherry Blossom} 12:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

From WP The Empire was formally dissolved on 6 August 1806 when the last Holy Roman Emperor Francis II (from 1804, Emperor Francis I of Austria) abdicated, following a military defeat by the French under Napoleon 217.115.65.15 (talk) 12:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Really? I would argue the Byzantine Empire more faithfully continued the Ancient Roman Empire until the Ottoman conquest in the 15th century, which would oddly enough make Turkey the closest thing we have today. Blue (is useful) 12:35, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

You're forgetting the East/West split. At one point, the emperor of the Eastern Empire officially recognised Charlemagne as the Western Empire, and then the designation was essentially transferred to the Holy Roman Empire because there had to be a Roman empire somewhere. I'm simplifying, obviously... there's some medieval term for it but I can't remember. rpeh •T•C•E• 13:00, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

With one major issue; the Byzantines called themselves roman to the end.--il'Dictator Mikal 16:08, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

The Byzantines called themselves Roman - in Greek..., which I guess makes about as much sense as having a Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation (which was its the full title for its last 300 years). ScepticWombat (talk) 10:37, 29 November 2014 (UTC)