Talk:Autogynephilia

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Contrapoints

I know Contrapoints can be controversial but she did a fantastic and heartfelt video about autogynephilia. What do people think about putting in the article? ^{— Unsigned, by: Scribbinus / talk / contribs}

It's fine. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 13:25, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Article name change

I think we should rework the articles to be about Blanchards typology more generally as to also debunk his HSTS hypothesis --PorpoisePurpose (talk) 16:19, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Disappointed

I am disappointed. I came here looking for neutral rational information, and I found an extended rant directed at a straw-man version of some particular theory. ^{— Unsigned, by: 82.38.69.218 / talk}

Write something better - and buy a round for RWians at the 'But I thought this was Rationalwiki' Bar. Anna Livia (talk) 12:35, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Quora mentioned this article and here I am

First time posting here sorry if I do something stupid. I'm a 33 heterosexual cis male and I'm 100% sure about it. When I see a very attractive woman I feel jealous. It's not like I want to have sex with them, I want to be them. I found out about Autogynephilia a few days ago and I did some research. Quora used this site and this article as a source to prove that Autogynephilia is bullshit. Ok. But how about my case? Is it autogynephilia or is it something different? Darkrion (talk) 21:52, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

I don't think you're going to get what you're asking for here. This is mainly a wiki, and while I would like to go farther into your case, I'm going to have some restraint and redirect you somewhere else, since I don't think this is the best format for this, and there are many other places for questions like this. I'd recommend r/asktransgender for something like this. armed_roomba (she/her)^{What am I doing wrong this time?} 22:23, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Cisgender female AGP

The idea that most cisgender women might have AGP might be false. The questions were asked badly and seems to be misunderstood as "did you ever feel sexy doing X" etc. There were questions about beautiful clothing and lingerie which would make a woman feel more confident more beautiful and desirable but her thoughts that lead to sexual arousal still center around her partner their reaction to her and what they might do later that might be arousing. But for trans the clothing is the ends. It is arousing to them to simply wear women's clothing. The research seems to be poor in quality. The question items were deeply biased and the same used with trans if I understand. Small sample size, no qualitative explanations of the answers. No description of methods process and hasn't been replicated. I wonder why. --RadicalRadish (talk) 13:49, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

@RadicalRadish Huh, that would seem to seriously discredit the attempts to prove this concept. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 14:02, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie certainly.--RadicalRadish (talk) 14:27, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

The whole point (well, I would imagine) was to demonstrate that "for trans the clothing is the ends" is an assumption, confirmation bias; when similar questions are asked of cis women, the defenders of Blanchard's model make such arguments, but there's no such consideration when they're asked of trans women. I altered the wording on that part of the lead section, in such a way that it doesn't assume these people are autogynephilic but rather are per a certain definition. Something related, but which I have no idea how or whether to insert to the article: Scott Alexander did some sort of survey about this a few years ago. See: "Autogenderphilia Is Common And Not Especially Related To Transgender". Similarly, Aella did a big e-survey: "Everyone Has Autogynephilia". Whether these have any real standing, I don't know; they're not published in journals, so I would assume there's unknown problems with statistical controls, but it could demonstrate that certain types of cisgender people who match the definition do exist and possibly in large numbers. Chillpilled (talk) 19:59, 2 March 2024 (UTC)