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Disaster

This is already gonna be a disaster, I just know it.199.119.30.105 (talk) 17:16, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Explanation as to what constitutes Cancel Culture?

I feel it's important to address what needs to be involved for something to be legitimate cancel culture, and how the term has been twisted to define petty spats and drama on social media. --Yay for me, RightyBlueLuigi!^{(Not a Mod)} 18:00, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

I don't think the line "Cancel culture is a phenomenon where a person is ejected from influence or fame by what is viewed by the internet and/or the media as questionable or egregious actions" accurately describes what cancel culture is or who it affects. I think Glenn Greenwald said it best in a tweet he made today: "It's not famous writers or journalists at risk from this. It's ordinary people with no power: including from self-censorship." You don't need influence or fame to be cancelled you just need a foaming-at-the-mouth social media mob and a phone number for an employer. Of course this doesn't take into account the social ostracization of cancelled people either. Caseinpointfan2 (talk) 21:48, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

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"It's an extension of the wider callout cultureWikipedia's W.svg on social media, which does target..." I feel you are trying to say something here.Ariel31459 (talk) 20:10, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

If you're not fond of it, feel free to change it. I'm sure Theace can chip in their opinion next time they're on. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 20:59, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

@Noir LeSable My problem is, the sentence is incomplete, unless it is supposed to run into the next heading "Canceled" celebrities. Ariel31459 (talk) 22:14, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

@Ariel31459 Ah, right on, sorry. From the way it was phrased, it sounded like you were trying to obliquely suggest disagreement. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 14:54, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Is it real?

Be skeptical. People like Woody Allen are supposed to be victims but keep making terrible films. --Annanoon (talk) 21:46, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

I have modified the definition to include the attempts to cancel as part of cancel culture, which of course is not real in any coherent sense of being a culture. They are more like flash mobs. Woody Allen is rich enough to make movies if he wants to do so. J.C. Rowling, one of the biggest moneymakers in publishing got canceled, so to speak, but it only means she has been criticized severely. Variety reports that her book sales rose just 10% in June, 2020, despite an industry overall average rise of 31.4%. She's not getting poorer, she is only getting richer more slowly.Ariel31459 (talk) 01:20, 24 October 2020 (UTC)