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Nominate for bronze. This is quite good. ТyTalk. 14:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


The tone of the article sounds kind of angry, haha. But it's pretty good nonetheless! HollowWorld (talk) 03:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Almost choked over the spawning pool thing. "Another kid? Spawn more overlords!" Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 03:59, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Midwives telling tall tales[edit]

I found a site before called "Midwifey today" several articles focusing on epidurals make claims that they are dangerous; one article compares pregnant women to pregnant elephants saying elephants don't need epidurals and neither do women, another claimed "Women get epidurals for one of the main reasons so many women smoked pot in the 1970s—their friends are doing it." this article then goes into some bullshit about epidurals being unsafe as evidenced by Jim Morrison (because injecting yourself with street heroin is somehow comparable to having a medical procedure in a hospital). --Sammygirl (talk) 08:43, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Home birth neonatal death rate-accurate?[edit]

A friend of mine linked me to this when I showed her this article while I was defending c-sections to her. Should I add it into the article? (talk) 03:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Painless childbirth[edit]

There are some anecdotes about women giving birth painlessly, such as in Mary Baker Eddy's Science and Health (under "Cancer and Consumption Healed"), and in hypnobirthing articles here and here. Are there any reliable sources on the subject that could be added to the article?--Krejtalk 00:18, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Other topics?[edit]

I was up really late last night (couldn't sleep) and I thought about adding 1) Medical myths (talking about the persistance of a rare few doctors who like the "in the styrup birth", and who focus on the doctor's convince, not hte patience, 2) Water births - there must be crap on this "oh so lovely" bithing practice. I'll research both of those and add them. Do people have other ideas, or wacky things they've heard of from familiy/friends? I'll research them, just not sure what is out there in bithing woo. maybe age? is there woo/bad science on who can or should have give birth, or if it's really good to have a kid at 50, just cause medical science will let you?Green mowse.pngGodot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability 16:03, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

just read about and remembered "the c-section war".Green mowse.pngGodot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability 16:04, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
I'd love to help, but I got nothing. Most of what you said went above my head.--Token Conservative (talk) 16:30, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
the article seems a bit light on birthing methods. i.e flat on back, squatting (birth stools, etc) and water birthing. There could be something on pain control and factors such as physical size, fitness and breathing methods. The idea that Doctors may influence labor for the convenience of the hospital would include ceasarians and induced labor by drugs Hamster (talk) 16:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Those are great, Hamster, thanks! like most things around here, this will take a while, but I've got some good ideas to start with. Totally forgot about the "pick your time" for woman or doctor's ease. Green mowse.pngGodot The ablity to breath is such an overrated ability 16:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
there is a LOT of wooish stuff relating to the topic and much of it has an element of truth to it, its the application that tens to be wooish. Like biofeedback relaxation devices, they do work, but maybe not during delivery for a first time user. Hamster (talk) 17:40, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Lifetime's new "in the wild" birthing show[edit]

lord help us. but there's some really good numbers in this article that we can use. — Unsigned, by: One tin soldier / talk / contribs (signed by bot) 22:35, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Riki Lake? really? Is this irrational wiki now?[edit]

The home birth / midwife industry in the US is comparable to the anti vaccination movement in terms of disinformation and propaganda. They claim hospital births are more dangerous by misinterpreting data and then guilt people in places of emotional instability into having a dangerous procedure in the care of a scam artist. The infant mortality rates in home births in the US is anywhere from 3-10x that of hospital births. Consider that those who have home births are demographically healthier (and midwifes screen out complicated cases) and the fact that hospitals get all cases, even ones where no medical intervention can help, and you see that 3-10x death rate is actually much worse. The mid wife push is a business. That Riki Lake movie is pure propaganda. A quick Google search will net you reputable sources saying how dangerous home births are and then pro home birth blogs that are peppered with psuedo science. Rational isn't the midpoint between information and disinformation. The science is purely against home births.— Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

C-sections and evolution[edit]

Should reference be made to this latest hypothesis on the impact of C-sections and survival? (talk) 18:02, 6 December 2016 (UTC)