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Hi, I undid an edit made by a user named octopus. @PaultheOctopus
Its totally redundant to point out Kirkegaard is partly Jewish because he has 2.8% Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry on a DNA test. If we use the latter claim, pretty much anyone can claim to be partly anything because of historical mixture between ethnic groups. There's also the fact Kirkegaard uses this claim to try to deflect allegations of anti-Semitism. Several other white nationalists have done the same e.g. Ryan Faulk claims he is 6.25% "African American" (itself a problematic category in these DNA tests) to deflect allegations of racism.Tobias (talk) 14:54, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Impersonations on Reddit
|Abd and Mikemikev trolling on Reddit, only read if you're bored
It's the same pattern with dumb and dumber. Mikemikev creates an account attacking Emil Kirkegaard, then Abd ul-Rahman Lomax shows up claiming it is me. I don't post on Reddit and none of these accounts are mine. I just blocked several accounts of Mike today here linking to Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/blegca/why_was_emil_kirkegaard_user_deleet_blocked_from/ Tobias (talk) 20:38, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Mikemikev's and Abd increased trolling activity is because they know there is an impending lawsuit involving Kirkegaaard; I'm guessing Mikemikev is trying to cause me legal trouble hence why he's trying to blame his Reddit attacks on Kirkegaard onto me, and all his socking here today related to spamming Reddit, which is quite pointless since I've already shown my lawyer all of Mikemikev's impersonations (he seems to have recently also been trolling Kirkegaard on 4chan), furthermore I've also made a disclaimer pointing out I don't post on Reddit. Let me also respond to some of Abd's lies:
- Abd falsely claims I contacted the media (who?) about Kirkegaard. I never did and he presents no evidence for this outright lie.
- Abd falsely claims I first added the RationalWiki section about Kirkegaard's writings on paedophilia. Nope. Those were originally added by another editor (in 2016 those claims were never on the article version I wrote), secondly I never knew about this blog post until Oliver Keyes (not me) posted about. So I never even dug this up.
- Abd repeatedly claims without evidence I've "defamed" Kirkegaard. That's for a judge or court to decide. My defence is truth or honest opinion.Tobias (talk) 21:04, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- Lomax has responded to above, predictably writing more lies. Laughably his "evidence" for the first claim about me contacting the media is a troll account that made some tongue-in-cheek comments and jokes (which I've pointed out to him multiple times, but he continues to quote deliberately out of context for his own delusions); the same account also made plenty of non-serious claims such as "This is my 59809540990228822 account. Whew. I keep loosing track." According to Lomax, that must then mean I have 59809540990228822 accounts. Apparently if you crack a joke on the internet or shit-post, it must all be true. Tobias (talk) 21:29, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- He's also still repeating his favourite conspiracy theory I have a brother who edits RationalWiki/Reddit who is somehow paid money by someone to edit here, despite those claims originated by trolls on Encyclopedia Dramatica.Tobias (talk) 21:44, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
“”Considering he's also pro drugging and raping kids, kinda feel like the onus is on you to prove he shouldn't be demonized.
“”I presume coffee is referring to a well known and disturbing blog post in which Emil considers whether one ‘solution’ to paedophilia would be to allow paedophiles to drug & rape children. Emil suggests they wouldn’t really be harmed if they don’t remember.
“”Including a thoughtful discussion of how very small children could be harmed anyway due to their bodily openings not being large enough to accommodate a regular adult penis. Emil recommends non penetration. Sorry... but Jesus Christ.
“”It is demented. What is going on with the spelling though?
“”It's utterly vile.
“”God knows... English as second language? Internet/blog standards? It almost makes it worse because it robs it off the veneer of being a ‘high minded’ philosophical thought experiment. Nope this is just some dude blogging in a pseudo-intellectual style about adults raping kids.
“”I’ve not seen or heard him advocate that since—and it’s not clear how serious that post was. My suspicion is that he’s on the spectrum and is unaware how people will greet his words.
) 15:59, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- ↑ https://twitter.com/Beersforopeners/status/1127201630120579073
- ↑ https://twitter.com/C_Kavanagh/status/1127204136670228480
- ↑ https://twitter.com/C_Kavanagh/status/1127208915706368000
- ↑ https://twitter.com/amyalkon/status/1127212179285929984
- ↑ https://twitter.com/EPoe187/status/1127214803120947200
Why were recent edits about Kirkegaard's incest and rape posts removed?
What was the reason for removing these legitimate edits by 220.127.116.11 and a few other Ips? Questioner (talk) 18:27, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- because i dont like this edit and im dubious why ur rewriting the article at all given that ur associating many things that are fine with many things that are not. explain ur changes. EK (talk) 18:30, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not 18.104.22.168 or the other Ips. Also, if you dispute the fact Kirkegaard is a self-admitted autistic, at least put back the other edits that merely quote his obscene posts about incest and rape which fit the "controversies" section of article very well. The edit about Kirkegaard's autism doesn't seem out of place considering Kirkegaard has spent years harassing editors of this article as alleged autistics. Psychological projection is common in the mentally ill and it now turns out (unsurprisingly) he himself suffers from autism and other mental issues. Questioner (talk) 18:42, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- im not disputing that he may be autistic. im disputing why you/bon think blatant ableism has a place in a rationalwiki article. not to mention the sly way polyamory got associated with pedophilia in there which im sure the bon was very pleased with but im not.EK (talk) 18:47, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Mr D/EK you are very friendly with Mr A-B-D and he told you on discord to remove it (I have seen your discord chats with A-B-D). Mr A-B-D defends the alt-right and he is close friend of Kirkegaard, so he wants criticisms of Kirkegaard removed. Kirkegaard wants to legalize incest and A-B-D is embarrassed about this because he has defended Kirkegaard for the last year, so he wants Kirkegaard's blog post hidden. Mr A-B-D also blogged about IPs editing this article which he incorrectly accuses being one person. Stop the pretending, this is all A-B-D's doing, nobody else. You did not just randomly log in here and not like an edit, LOL. But sure the autism stuff should be deleted but the incest and rape comments should all be put back. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 18:50, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- i watch all the edits, there are not so many that it takes a long time. whether the ips are all one peep i cant be sure but they are all from a proxy provider so maybe they are.EK (talk) 19:53, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Bizarre. There is no 'ableism' in the article, nor was polyamory linked to pedophilia. There's not much point lying about this when anyone can read the edits.Questioner (talk) 18:53, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- bullshit and u know it. EK (talk) 19:53, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
A valid suggestion is to remove the autism section and revert the page back to how it was before , the incest section is relevant to Kirkegaard's immoral belief system. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 18:56, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- that was roughly what i expected ye, but im not convinced about this whole incest thing and would like more detail and an explaination on why its supposed to be irrational. EK (talk) 19:53, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Emil Kirkegaard wants to legalize incest and he thinks incest is perfectly morally acceptable in a sexual relationship - that is irrational and wrong. You yourself (D) a male pretend to be EK a female over the internet, and according to users on a forum that have looked into your activities you are a trying to be transsexual and are very confused about your sexuality so maybe you support incest. But 99% of people in the world do not support it. It should not be "legalized" or promoted as a good thing. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 20:40, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- (@David Gerard , (@Bongolian , (@Cosmikdebris , (@John66 , (@LeftyGreenMario , (@Spud what do you think? 184.108.40.206 (talk) 19:00, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Other mods can perhaps intervene. EK is totally unhinged. This isn't the first time they've falsely accused someone of an "ism" or "phobia".Loch (talk) 19:17, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- as you are a banned user using dozens of accounts to mass ping the mods and annoy everyone i dont see how im the unhinged one here.EK (talk) 19:53, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not the IP editors. IP-editing doesn't fit my behaviour at all; I've only used accounts. Unless you're claiming my behaviour has suddenly changed to IP editing randomly after more than 7 years, why? I claimed you're unhinged because you falsely accuse people of "isms" & "phobias". There is no "ableism" in my edit(s), elsewhere you also falsely accused me of "transphobia". I can only take that as a sign you're a compulsive liar since nowhere have I ever written anything about transexuals on the internet, so how am I a transphobe? You make up total BS about people.Sea (talk) 20:25, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- u know maybe u just dont remember when u went on a transphobic rant on reddit and then reposted it 20+ times until u killed the thread. hmm maybe u forgot all those things u said on discord. oh and that article u wrote about dysk u somehow think that wasnt transphobic. wow EK (talk) 20:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- EK/D are both the same person on this website (although D pretended to have quit). EK is very friendly with A-B-D and regularly talks to him everyday on multiple discords. A-B-D is in regular communication with Kirkegaard. A-B-D converted EK to his side because they were both globally banned on Wikipedia. A-B-D is having a negative influence here and gives in to A-B-D's demands. EK/D should be cooped. (@David Gerard, Make it happen. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:24, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
u know at this point i dont think ur here in good faith at all or that u read anything on discord (abd is a mod on a discord server im on ye), since if u had read discord u would know abd hasnt once mentioned this article and has multiple times asked me to remove my edits to his article where i wrote that he was a member of an alt-right cult and some other things he claims are inaccurate. u know if i was doing everything abd asked as u say then why would i still be slandering him? hmmmm answer that EK (talk) 19:34, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- D/EK - Abd was originally attacking you, he even created a blog post monitoring your activities. You only became friends with him around June 2019 because you are both globally banned on Wikipedia and you support his lolsuit against the WMF (you regularly post on wikipediocracy in regard to Abd's lolsuit which you seem to support). Your edits on his RW article about the alt-right cult were made on 11 April 2019, long before you became friendly with him. And no, you wouldn't try and remove that now because David Gerard does not like A-b-d so you would not try and white-wash criticisms from his article, it would like suspicious for you. A-b-d has been defending you on Reddit and on his blog, and on Reddit you keep defending him. I also don't see why you have to pretend to be female on here or use two accounts D and EK. We all know who you are. As for discord logs, I have screenshots and I could easily email RW staff that reveal you and A-B-D regularly communicate and support each others agendas. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 20:31, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- of all the banned users from this site i have talked to, abd is the only one that hasnt literally threatened to rape and kill me. maybe it is beyond ur comprehension how being nice might make someone more appealing to talk with. maybe ur just trolling because u sure are disregarding the truth. now if u would kindly go away that would be great because im locking the page now. kthx EK (talk) 20:53, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not at all interested in the Abd drama and some of these Ips flooding this page could be Michael Coombs that are derailing the actual dispute. A sysop should just restore the incest and rape posts -- we all actually know the real reason those were removed.Giant (talk) 20:40, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- nope. EK (talk) 20:53, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Just to point out the other IPS are not me. I added the original Kirkegaard incest blog post where he said he wants to legalize incest, a few days ago. It is relevant. Can a mod restore the said content. Thanks. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 20:43, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- that content is still disputed, absolutely nothing has been done to address that. if someone who has been on this site more than 5 minutes wants to talk about it then go ahead.EK (talk) 20:53, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Those users and IPs were being too judgemental, we should not judge people here! So Kirkegaard wants to legalize drugs and incest. He is entitled to that view. There is nothing wrong with quoting his own words. John66 (talk) 17:17, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- epic irrational libertarian moment. the original headline quote was more biting than the new one u picked btw EK (talk) 18:25, 18 September 2019 (UTC)