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Surely there are one or two more appealing categories which fit this article, other than just category:politics? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 05:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

How about social science? Lord of the Goons The official spikey-haired skeptical punk 05:51, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
That sounds perfect. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 05:52, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Affirmative action[edit]

  • These two conceptions of equality (while using the same term) make discussions of AA very difficult and contentious, and in the case that its goals will be ultimately achieved it's likely that it'll disappear from the system.

It tends not to work that way. First, because these things generate lobbies because of their disparate impact. It works the same way as the emu subsidy. It's an important part of the livelihood of emu farmers, and costs the average voter a pittance. You have an intensely interested minority who will move heaven and earth making sure the emu subsidy stays in place. Second, the goal is inherently vague and chimerical. Equality of outcome might be measurable along a selected and imperfect set of metrics, and will remain utterly unachievable anyways. Equality of opportunity -- how do you even measure that? The argument for affirmative action in essence goes that formal equality before the law fails to deliver even that, because life is irreducibly complicated. - Smerdis of Tlön, LOAD "*", 8, 1. 03:58, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Emu farmers are an oppressed group like African Americans, and receive affirmative action to promote equal representation throughout society, especially in well-paying jobs? Ooookay. -- (talk) 15:11, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Herculean article expansion & Marxian concept of equality[edit]

First off, impressive work. This stuff can be very arcane but your take on it is comprehensibly written. Upon reading I one question came to mind though: in the communism section you state that Marx advocated equality of outcome. Is there a quote one can find affirming this? I thought I recalled Marx rejecting much of the concept of equality (of outcome) since it was, on one hand, practically unattainable and, on the other hand, only a thought experiment for capitalist societies anyway which he, of course, wanted to overcome by giving everyone free access to resources, means of productions & welfare (" each according to his need.") instead. Are you interpreting/extrapolating here? Anyway, lots of food for thought in here, cheers. EauDeCologne (talk) 09:33, 5 June 2018 (UTC)