To be fair, while maybe not named Hell, in Revelations it does talk of a lake of fire and brimstone where the evil ones will be cast for all eternity. Researcher 17:27, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yes, and Jesus is reported to have said "It is better for you to enter into life maimed than to keep both hands and go to Hell and the unquenchable fire. And if your foot is your undoing, cut it off; it is better to enter into life a cripple than to keep both your feet and be thrown into Hell. And if it is your eye, tear it out; it is better to enter into the Kingdom of God with one eye than to keep both eyes and be thrown into Hell, where the devouring worm never dies and the fire is not quenched." (Mark 9). And the Old Testament imtermittently rambles about the pit of Sheol and the like. The bit about there being only one mention of hell in the Bible is obviously wrong.--ConservapediaRoolz 08:20, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
- 1 Hell, California
- 2 Exclave of Hell
- 3 Additional cross references/links
- 4 I refuse
- 5 Pope Benedict XIV Reference?
- 6 Hell Doesn't Exist. Never Did. Non-Biblical, Non-Jewish Concept, Erroneously Translated / Conflated From Different Words.
- 7 Hell and energy
- 8 Logically
- 9 Babies and hell
- 10 ADX Florence
This small community was basically a roadside business. It has a Wikipedia article from which I took most of the material, some of which I wrote. I would not pay any attention to it except that the place has a hellish climate, at least in the summer. (It isn't too bad in the winter, but that's not the point).Pbrower2a (talk) 03:04, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Exclave of Hell
to use the word elbow, as it veers way too close to hell-below. However, limb joint cannot be used as a substitute, as that's an anagram of in't limbo with a spare j. --Scherben (talk) 01:05, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Pope Benedict XIV Reference?
Hi, I just came across this page while researching, and I'm curious about the survey done about people who believed in hell and who didn't. If you could, could you provide a link to the article? Also, 62% + 42% = 104%. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 13:51, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Hell Doesn't Exist. Never Did. Non-Biblical, Non-Jewish Concept, Erroneously Translated / Conflated From Different Words.
Cite: "www.thehypertexts.com/No Hell in the Bible.htm"
Sheol, Gehenna, Tartarus, Hades, etc. All mean different things, none of which mean "Hell" as in the conception in Dante's "Inferno," et al.
The entire modern Christian notion of hell as some infernal oven with people being tortured by demons is complete nonsensical claptrap. Can we say that somewhere, rationally, with an analysis of what the ACTUAL, ORIGINAL words really meant, in context, and separate from one another? 18.104.22.168 (talk) 17:27, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- And to many Vikings the Christian notion of a milk-and-honey heaven would be somewhat hellish - they want Valhalla with its feasting and carousing and fighting #and they want it now#. Anna Livia (talk) 18:18, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- "Lake of fire" otoh is explicitly in the (new testament) bible, with enough contextual disambiguation to be clear about it being a punishment for the sinful. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 18:44, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- They still wouldn't care for the Christian-God-Botherer's heaven. Unless of course they have been invited in to fight all 'the bad guys who said a few magic words to get them into heaven and then reverted to their usual practices. God #is not amused# and is being constantly pestered by God Botherers, pointing out how he is not living up to the standards they have set him (?Godsplainers?) .
- Given the number of reasonably decent people who fail to meet the Godsplainers's strict definitions Hell is now very overcrowded and people have to take their 15 minute turns in the lakes of 'fire' (there is insufficient gas to keep them running at anything more than pleasantly warm), and Satan is being pestered by Health and Safety experts as well as lesser devils who signed up to 'do things to baddies.' Anna Livia (talk) 19:12, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Hell and energy
So what fuels the fiery pits etc in Hell - geothermal energy (which may well be incompatible with the concept of Hell)? The hot air generated by politicians? What else? Anna Livia (talk) 23:07, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think you understand how magic works.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 09:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- As some people believe in fiery hell the question has to be asked.
- Given that said people tend to banish everybody not of their faith and those of their faith who commit even minor 'sins' to hell there will be excessive overcrowding (to which the Union of Working Devils objects), large numbers of unbaptised children (the UWD are #not nursemaids#) and unbaptised adults/those who had 'a few minor bad thoughts' so anybody sent to hell will have no more than 15 minutes in a lukewarm sauna every few thousand years. Anna Livia (talk) 10:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Does theology require scientific consistency such as the three laws of thermodynamics? Does it depend upon any cosmic justice?
My suspicion is that heat does not dissipate from Hell as it does fire or a star emitting energy from nuclear fusion. It keeps bouncing off the enclosure with perfect reflectivity, so the furnace-like heat has been recycled since Antiquity. The same heat that burned Attila the Hun could be tormenting Saddam Hussein today and will be there until the Earth is destroyed and along with it Hell... and its denizens,
God created humans in his image (given the diversity of people - physically, attitudes etc - how? Possibly - mumbo-jumbo involving a disco ball).
Humans sin and are sent to Hell.
Therefore, logically, Heaven and Hell are the same.
Babies and hell
It is rather unfair that babies get sent to hell (with the abolition of limbo).
The devils would get slightly annoyed at 'the screamers and ankle-biters' who are distracting them from what they wish to do (dealing with people who have been naughty, and skiving off to drink home-brew).
Scene: Satan's office, crowded with devils (and God, who is on a visit to coordinate tactics).
'Satan - you made us take on babies to punish them for being unbaptised - but they are cute and smile so we don't have the heart to do anything to them.'
'You think you have problems - I have all these bolshie teenagers (who have grown up in hell) who give me backchat claiming I am an ignorant old fogey...' Satan says.
'And I have to deal with a load of sanctimonious do-gooders, who refuse to believe in evolution, and 4.2 billion year old creation, despite my having put clear evidence in the universe. They even say they know what I mean better than I do...' God complains.
Could someone put in an image of the federal Supermax, ADX Florence, the highest-security federal (USA) prison and the one that arguably does the most to dehumanize a prisoner through sensory deprivation? The image should be available from the Federal Bureau of Prisons and would thus be public domain. I'm not saying that people there don't deserve to be there, but Hell is real even if it has justification (let us say for Holocaust perpetrators).
Contrasted to the Nazi concentration camps, one's stay is almost certain to be even longer because the penal system works to keep someone alive. A term in the Gulag could end as the result of some mass clemency such as "the thirtieth anniversary of the Great October Revolution". The United States of America has shown extreme durability, so nobody can reasonably expect to be released as the result of a change of regime or the dissolution of the USA. Amnesties are rare at the federal penal system for any offenders, no matter who the President is.
An inmate at a Nazi concentration had at least the hope of being around when a foreign force came as a liberator. If any Allied army got to your place of confinement before the Nazis killed you, then you would be free. Gulag? The Soviet Union could soften at times. ADX Supermax? There is no such hope. — Unsigned, by: Pbrower2a / talk / contribs
I have another image depicting Pompeii and Herculaneum in AD 79.
There were plenty of ways to die during the eruption of Mount Vesuvius, most of them heat and suffocation, but also being crushed by collapsing buildings or falling objects or being trampled.Pbrower2a (talk) 05:18, 17 October 2021 (UTC)