Talk:Kevin Trudeau
I would like to see PalMD and Kevin Trudeau go head to head. TmtamesP 19:44, 28 February 2008 (EST)
- I'd kick is scrawny ass...he's a crook of the worst type. I haven't even bothered with him on my blog yet because he's one of the few popular woo-meisters who's actually been convicted.-- -PalMD --Do not read my blog 19:46, 28 February 2008 (EST)
- He is really silly. Read his wikipedia article. TmtamesP 19:47, 28 February 2008 (EST)
"Regarding" his "abuse" of "quotation marks": Wouldn't the quotes around the word "Cures" be a shield against fraud claims? "I never said they were cures, I said they were 'cures'..." -- Benjamin Geiger 14:37, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
Good news! More Natural "Cures" Revealed was on teh $2.97 shelf at Books-A-Million and I couldn't resist. Just flipping through random pages "reveals" obvious bullshit on every "page". Obviously we can't do a side-by-side on this one but "maybe" a debunking of random assertions he makes? Secret Squirrel 15:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Fun times: I don't like to snark (note: this may be untrue) but in Googling MeetIlluminatiMembers I came across this critical blog post not only denouncing Trudeau but linking to a criticism of Trudeau by John "makin' shit up" Stossel. Battle Of The Network Wingnuts! --Pere Ubu (talk) 16:05, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
convicted felon[edit]
This is just kind of tossed in at the very end. If it's true, it should be in the lead, and also should be footnoted. Anyone got easy source? ħuman 18:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ask, and you shall receive. Z3rotalk 18:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, the first is an indictment (was he convicted?) and the second looks more like a cease-and-desist order? Hard to tell amidst all that legalese though. ħuman 19:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, but WP is comfortable with "...convicted felon and unsuccessful defendant in several Federal Trade Commission (FTC) lawsuits" in their lead, so "clearer" sources ought to be easy to find. ħuman 19:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- These were pulled off WP as footnotes to the convicted fellon bit, they looked legal-e, so I assumed they would suffice. Sadly, I'm no lawyer. Z3rotalk 19:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- I has more sources: his own books. P. 571 of Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About, "About the Author": "Kevin pled guilty to felonies in his youth and spent almost two years in prison..." P. 29 of More Natural "Cures" Revealed: "'You're a convicted felon.' Old news. Virtually every interview I do starts off with the fact that I pled guilty to two felonies that I committed over twenty years ago." He spins this as a point in his favor making himself out to be somebody who turned his life around and is now a model citizen. Secret Squirrel 00:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- These were pulled off WP as footnotes to the convicted fellon bit, they looked legal-e, so I assumed they would suffice. Sadly, I'm no lawyer. Z3rotalk 19:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh shit...[edit]
I've heard of this guy. Some kid in my college classes was trying to get to me to sign up for his website. Then he starts spouting this homeopathy nonsense. Should I try to warn this guy about this?Moderateman3345 (talk) 04:15, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. Knowledge is the stupid-killer.--talk 04:17, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Salt and HFCS[edit]
The article says (but doesn't cite) that Kevin tells people to cut out these two things but that "you can get this good advice from most trusted physicians" anyway.
It's clearly crazy to cut out salt, you can't live without it. And although there's no special reason why you should eat HFCS, there's no reason (as RW's own article points out) to expect it to be much worse for you than cane sugar or other lovely sweet ingredients. Maybe all that's wrong is the author of this article meant to say cut down on here, but I have no way to know and there's no citation.
If we can cite Kevin saying something actually true here we should, and if we can cite him saying something widely claimed but still stupid, like "HFCS is super dangerous, eat cane sugar instead" then we shouldn't file that under "good advice". 82.69.171.94 (talk) 18:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Donations[edit]
WikiPedia is an encyclopedia and encyclopedias give unbiased information. It is content like this "...he employs his talent as a silver-tongued operator of bullshit" that are nicely highlighted by one of your contributors about facts vs opinions, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Night_Gyr
quoting:
"Don't speculate. State the facts that are known and let the reader draw their own conclusions. We're an encyclopedia of facts, not opinions."
WikiPedia is currently asking for donations again, but honestly when you focus on opinions as opposed to facts, you're more likely to push people away rather than support this website.
I hope you guys take this advice to heart.
- Umm. What? DamoHi 09:17, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- Bluntly: they think we are supposed to be neutral like Wikipedia and are shocked that we are not. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 10:42, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
I stand corrected. I was indeed under the impression this site is Wikipedia. My apology.